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polksda

Last reply Nov 14, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Why is Dish repeatedly spamming me about opt-out locals?

I've now received four (4) canned messages in my voice mail from Dish, all exactly the same: My local channels are now free through the end of the year, and unless I call back and cancel before then, I will automatically be charged $5.99 per month.

Why do I have to opt out of this crap instead of Dish having to ask me first before adding it, and why do they have to call multiple times to nag me about it???

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SRW1000

Nov 13, 2006

Since Charlie was talking about the local preview on the Tech Chat tonight, I tried to ask about some people getting the preview, and some not; and also about automatically billing starting on 1/1/07.

I was told that everyone that doesn't currently subscribe to them should be getting the preview. If not, there must be a technical reason for it, like the wrong dish or an aiming issue.

Contrary to the recorded message, they will not automatically add locals to your programming. You have to call and ask for it to be added, or the will disappear on 1/1/07.

Take that for what it's worth, since the phone message says the opposite.

Scott

cobra2225

Nov 14, 2006

polksda said:
I've now received four (4) canned messages in my voice mail from Dish, all exactly the same: My local channels are now free through the end of the year, and unless I call back and cancel before then, I will automatically be charged $5.99 per month.

Why do I have to opt out of this crap instead of Dish having to ask me first before adding it, and why do they have to call multiple times to nag me about it???

they are hoping that you forget to cancel
means $ $ $ $ $ in there bank

robertlc

Nov 14, 2006

I don't think I have local channels preview. What channels are they supposed to be on?

From what I can find out, Dish doesn't offer local channels in DMA #158 yet. I'm about to lose DNS channels which I legally qualified for with waivers since we can't receive CBS or NBC from either New Orleans or Mobile, which we're exactly between.

In fact, the Dish guy I talked to last night said it doesn't appear that we're in a DMA. I'm 10 miles from Biloxi, 3 miles from Gulfport. How can I not be in that DMA?

visiter555

Nov 14, 2006

The correct term is "Negative Optioning" and it is not legal in many states.

My asumption is that Dish figures for the few that complain they 'fix the problem' and otherwise they continue to bring in the same $$$ or more than they did with Distant Locals.

visiter555

Nov 14, 2006

SRW1000 said:
Since Charlie was talking about the local preview on the Tech Chat tonight, I tried to ask about some people getting the preview, and some not; and also about automatically billing starting on 1/1/07.

I was told that everyone that doesn't currently subscribe to them should be getting the preview. If not, there must be a technical reason for it, like the wrong dish or an aiming issue.

Contrary to the recorded message, they will not automatically add locals to your programming. You have to call and ask for it to be added, or the will disappear on 1/1/07.

Take that for what it's worth, since the phone message says the opposite.

Scott

The locals have been added to all just as Charlie stated in the Chat. Most people do not look for channels below 104, so they don't see them sitting in the single & double digit channel numbers.

The three voicemails I have received state very clearly that if you do nothing, you will continue to receive your locals and be billed for them effective 1/1/2007.

Gotta remember to have them turned off in Dec as I get clear clean OTA signals where I live!!!

Vis

navychop

Nov 14, 2006

NO- the Chat clearly stated free locals was provided to those with DNS. NOT everybody. Certainly not me.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Charter/Spectrum tv app works with more brands

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Bobby

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Last reply 45 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 23, 2026

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Oct 24, 2026

long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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long_time_Dish

Oct 24, 2026

Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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Oct 24, 2026

The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

45 minutes ago

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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ewindowman

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 6:38 PM

https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 6:52 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/att-reshoring-customer-care_id184650

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3

Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.

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Almighty1

Today at 5:30 AM

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comfortably_numb

47 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies

I wouldn't call it incompetence necessarily, it's just that the customer is only a device now, the old idea that you need to spend money to make money has been forgotten. They're not looking at the long game. They're looking at immediate exposure and shareholder value. Spending a lot of money on local call centers might be a good long term investment, but it doesn't do anything for them in the short term. That's what the blank stares were about, they thought YOU didn't get it.

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comfortably_numb

46 minutes ago

Juan said:
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.

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dishstaller

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Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

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