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Tom Bombadil
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Liberty, News close to accord
DIRECTV IN PLAY
By Kimberly S. Johnson
Denver Post Staff Writer
DenverPost.com
Article Last Updated:11/16/2006 01:59:55 AM MST

The intensifying talks between John Malone's Liberty Media Corp. and Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. over a possible stock-for-assets swap involving DirecTV could bring an end to a high-stakes gambit begun two years ago by Malone to gain a bigger piece of media and entertainment giant News Corp.

It also could bode well for Colorado - once the country's hub for cable-television companies - as an emerging satellite-TV power center. EchoStar Communications Corp., the No. 2 satellite-TV provider behind DirecTV, is based in Douglas County, the home of Liberty Media.

On Wednesday, News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch said his company and Liberty were close to a deal in which News Corp. could regain the 19 percent stake Liberty owns in News Corp.

But he wouldn't confirm that such a deal would involve a stock-for-assets swap for News Corp.'s 38 percent controlling stake in DirecTV. Liberty chief executive Greg Maffei has said DirecTV is among the News Corp. assets Liberty is interested in.

Neither Liberty nor DirecTV officials would comment on the negotiations Wednesday.

Malone has roots in the cable industry and in Denver. Liberty started as the cable-TV programming arm of Tele-Communications Inc., the cable-service provider that Malone ran in Denver for more than 25 years. TCI was founded by Robert Magness in 1968. Malone kept control of Liberty and sold TCI's assets to AT&T Broadband - now Comcast - in 1999.

"There's a certain irony to the idea that Denver would emerge as the center of satellite TV after holding the title of center of the cable universe for the last two decades," said Craig Moffett, Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. senior analyst.

But the cable industry has waned in Colorado, with the biggest providers now based elsewhere.

El Segundo, Calif.-based DirecTV has more than 15 million customers. EchoStar, which operates the Dish Network, has 12.5 million subscribers.

DirecTV already has substantial operations in Colorado, with plans to hire up to 1,000 employees at a Denver-based national operations facility next year.

The company employs 122 at a Castle Rock satellite-uplink center, one of two locations where TV signals are collected, sent up to DirecTV satellites and sent back down to customers' dishes. More than 294 DirecTV employees already work at the Denver-based operations center.

"With the Malone acquisition, satellite TV gets that much closer to a Denver-only experience," said Jimmy Schaeffler, senior multichannel TV analyst for the Carmel Group. "Denver goes from being just the cable center to being the multichannel pay-TV center for the U.S. and maybe the world. It's a very positive thing for the state of Colorado."

In November 2004, Malone bought up about $1.5 billion in News Corp. shares, doubling Liberty's stake in the company to about 19 percent. Since then, Murdoch has introduced a "poison pill" provision at News Corp. to keep Malone from gaining additional control.

Should Liberty and News Corp. reach a deal involving DirecTV, Colorado has enough satellite talent that Liberty might consider relocating some operations or top-level talent to the state, said one observer.

"Just as (cable company) Adelphia moved from Pennsylvania to Denver to take advantage of the talent here, it seems that satellite could do the same," said Erica Stull, a former Adelphia executive who worked in Denver's cable industry for 18 years.

It could also open up "a renewed sense" of competition between DirecTV and EchoStar, said Barbara Sullivan Roehrig, a pay-TV marketing consultant and former EchoStar executive.

"There may be a concerted aggressive effort (by Liberty) to get some EchoStar personnel," she said.
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Liberty Media is the same group that has been in the process of buying the Atlanta Braves in the same kind of stock for assets swap from AOL - Time Warner for what seems like 50 freaking years.

To me as a Braves fan, the comparsion between Liberty and AOL-Time Warner is same as horse crap to cow crap. They look different but both stink to freaking high hell.
Tom Bombadil
Liberty's finances in good shape

(Note the statement that the present book value of DirecTV is $27.4B)

Third quarter robust for Liberty

Strong showings by its QVC home-shopping network and Starz cable unit bolster income.

By Kimberly S. Johnson
Denver Post Staff Writer
DenverPost.com
Article Last Updated:11/06/2006 07:55:04 PM MST

Liberty Media Corp. reported strong third-quarter results Monday, thanks to its QVC home-shopping unit and Starz cable-TV network.

At the same time, the Douglas County-based company has made progress in talks with News Corp. regarding an asset- for-stock swap, which could include satellite provider DirecTV.

"While I'm not sure where our negotiations with News will take us, one of the elements of a DirecTV deal that is appealing is the flexibility we would have," said Liberty chief executive Greg Maffei.

Liberty has a 19 percent stake in News Corp., which has a 38 percent controlling stake in El Segundo, Calif.-based DirecTV.

Liberty, which split its holdings into two groups - Liberty Interactive and Liberty Capital - in May, reported comprehensive income of $63 million for the third quarter, compared with a loss of $94 million a year earlier.

Third-quarter income for Liberty Interactive, which includes QVC, was up 44 percent to $257 million, compared with $179 million for the comparable quarter a year ago.

In addition to higher demand for apparel and accessories, QVC benefited from Liberty's February acquisition of online retailer Provide Commerce.

Liberty Capital, which includes Starz Entertainment Group, saw income climb 14 percent to $40 million, compared with $35 million a year ago.

Analysts said they were pleased with Liberty's quarter.

"The numbers were good. QVC performed ahead of expectations," said Janco Partners analyst Matthew Harrigan. "Everyone's waiting to see what's going to happen with DirecTV and News Corp."

The companies may be trying to hammer out details on valuing DirecTV, he said, which could be more favorable than the current $27.4 billion market valuation of DirecTV.

"They're not bound to do a transaction that is based on the News Corp. or DirecTV stock price on that day," Harrigan said. "It's a conceptual trade."

Bloomberg News and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Staff writer Kimberly S. Johnson can be reached at 303-954-1088 or kjohnson@denverpost.com.
ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
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Juan
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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dishstaller
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.
Almighty1
Even 23 years ago, Verizon was known for having quality customer service. T-Mobile had quality customer service too but just poor mobile service. AT&T when it was still known as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless both had poor customer service. This was when all three were providing customer service from the U.S. so even in the U.S., some companies are still better than others as it still depends on who they hire. That's the same reason AT&T Broadband Inc. which was basically their Cable TV never gotten far and got sold to Comcast.
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comfortably_numb
And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies

I wouldn't call it incompetence necessarily, it's just that the customer is only a device now, the old idea that you need to spend money to make money has been forgotten. They're not looking at the long game. They're looking at immediate exposure and shareholder value. Spending a lot of money on local call centers might be a good long term investment, but it doesn't do anything for them in the short term. That's what the blank stares were about, they thought YOU didn't get it.
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comfortably_numb
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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FIND Your Way Back-Jefferson Starship
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ClarkGable
Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
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harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC
T
· posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers
The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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long_time_Dish
It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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jsmit86
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Now after reading this story I walked away thinking that this is being blown out of proportion because of the incredibly low numbers of those affected.....BUT....I've read posts by some of you who are taking this drug so I figured it was worth posting.

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KAB
KAB
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in Movie Talk
Not a bit surprised.

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