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Tom Bombadil
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
A local cable company rep spoke to the media about why most of the nation's large cable companies are not offering NFL Network, as are E* and D*. They said that so far the NFL Network ratings are almost non-existent, well below a 1.0 from Neilsen.

Despite these extremely low ratings, the NFL Network is asking for a rate increase from 25 cents per month per sub to 72-75 cents per month per sub. They also want to be included in the standard/basic channel package, and not in a special upgraded tier or sports package.

So far less than 45% of all homes that sub to a channel provider have access to NFL Network. The majority of the nation's homes that get the channel are getting it from E* and D*.

In order to drive subscriptions to the channel, the NFL took the 8 Thursday night games off the table during the NFL contract bidding. TV experts say this cost the NFL about $400M in network fees, I think this was over the life of a 3 or 4 year contract.

The NFL has been running ads in dozens of cities criticizing cable companies for not carrying the channel, urging people to write their cable companies to complain. Both E* and D* have been advertising that they have it and have been able to pick up new subs. They are targeting places like several cities in Wisconsin which will not be able to see an upcoming Vikings - Packers game unless they have NFL Network.

The NFL is following the example set by ESPN of demanding higher rates and broad availability. So far they are not backing down on their rates.

Given Charlie's history of resisting these tactics, it leaves me wondering if he was able to cut a sweetheart deal just so the NFL could put the screws on the big cable companies. It isn't normal to see hiim be the first guy on the block to pay a 200% rate increase.
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Darrell S
After watching that crap telecast last night, I wish E* wasn't paying them either. The one time Charlie isn't a tightwad. Does anyone know if Charlie is paying what the cable companies are being asked to pay?
datwell
After watching that crap telecast last night, I wish E* wasn't paying them either. The one time Charlie isn't a tightwad. Does anyone know if Charlie is paying what the cable companies are being asked to pay?

Yup, the picture broke up at times and the sound had problems at times too - some FiOS folks reported the same problems, so this was not the carrier's fault. It was a good game and I really like NFL football, but I am increasingly concerned about the NFL's seemingly boundless greed.
M
I was watching it on TSN (Canadian broadcaster...they have the rights) and the picture broke up during the game and the sound was blech
C
The NFL Network has some work to do on their telecasts. Bryant Gumble is a HORRID play-by-play guy. Sounds like he is doing a serious interview the whole time. The PQ of the game wasn't as good as what CBS/FOX/NBC provides either.
Slamminc11
The NFL Network has some work to do on their telecasts. Bryant Gumble is a HORRID play-by-play guy. Sounds like he is doing a serious interview the whole time. The PQ of the game wasn't as good as what CBS/FOX/NBC provides either.

And Collingsworst is just as bad!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess there wasn't anyone else out there left that they could choose from
U
The NFL Network has some work to do on their telecasts. Bryant Gumble is a HORRID play-by-play guy. Sounds like he is doing a serious interview the whole time. The PQ of the game wasn't as good as what CBS/FOX/NBC provides either.

Sure it was.... of twenty years ago!

PQ was horrible, sound was horrible, announcers were horrible, ...the game was great! Denver lost! :D

Seriously though, I truly believe that the quality of the video and audio was comparable to that of twenty or so years ago.

The only reason why E* signed up with NFL Network, is so that they could counter D*'s NFL ads. E* was able to try to "pull the wool over potential subs eyes" by claiming "We now have NFL on E*!" They could then claim that you could see "all the games" on E*, they just didn't tell you as prominently, that those games were mostly delayed on the NFL Net.

If the cable cos. conitinue to balk, and I hope they do, then E* and D*(esp. E*) will use this as bargaining for next renewal. Anybody know the length of the current E*/NFL network contract? Hope it's short.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
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Juan
Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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dishstaller
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.
Almighty1
Even 23 years ago, Verizon was known for having quality customer service. T-Mobile had quality customer service too but just poor mobile service. AT&T when it was still known as AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless both had poor customer service. This was when all three were providing customer service from the U.S. so even in the U.S., some companies are still better than others as it still depends on who they hire. That's the same reason AT&T Broadband Inc. which was basically their Cable TV never gotten far and got sold to Comcast.
comfortably_numb
And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies

I wouldn't call it incompetence necessarily, it's just that the customer is only a device now, the old idea that you need to spend money to make money has been forgotten. They're not looking at the long game. They're looking at immediate exposure and shareholder value. Spending a lot of money on local call centers might be a good long term investment, but it doesn't do anything for them in the short term. That's what the blank stares were about, they thought YOU didn't get it.
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comfortably_numb
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?

And TMO. If anybody's lagging behind the most, it's ATT.
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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FIND Your Way Back-Jefferson Starship
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ClarkGable
Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
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harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC
T
· posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers
The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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long_time_Dish
It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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S
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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jsmit86
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Now after reading this story I walked away thinking that this is being blown out of proportion because of the incredibly low numbers of those affected.....BUT....I've read posts by some of you who are taking this drug so I figured it was worth posting.

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KAB
KAB
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in Movie Talk
Not a bit surprised.

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