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I recently installed a Superdish on a pole, my question is can I ground just the DP34 or do I need to run a ground from the dish itself to my grounding rod?
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bnaivar
Mike_H said:
The purpose of grounding the dish would be to give the lightning a low inductance path to ground which would be the only way to protect the dish if directly struck by lightning.

I beg to differ. If a billion electron volts (aka Lighning) strikes your antenna, no amount of grounding is going to protect it. The purpose of grounding is to drain off the accumulated static charge that attracts lightning.
SimpleSimon
Well, yes and no on the direct hit. You're correct, there's NO WAY even a #00 cable will conduct all the current of a strike. Maybe think of it as a 'wave guide' to 'encourage' the lightning to follow that path. Even so, there's so much current, it's gonna branch out - which is one more reason to also ground the coax at the entry point to the structure, and then run the coax through a surge suppressor near the receiver. Layer upon layer of protection. :)
Mike_H
Wives tales. I don't feel like digging into it right now. There are plenty of resources on the net. You can start with Polyphaser http://www.polyphaser.com/

How do television transmission antennas continue to function direct lightning strikes?
How do radio antennas continue to function in the face of direct lightning strikes?

Static on a DBS antenna is a non-issue unless mounted at a level where you will be touching it. A properly grounded coax will will ensure static build up doesn't play any role in the distribution of the signal.

Lightning seeks a direct path to earth ground. The key to the path used to route the lightning is that it is low impedance as well as low resistance.

The physics of lightning are much more complex than "a billion electron volts" and the PolyPhaser guides at their website can be helpful in understanding this.

A surge suppressor plugged into a wall socket will do absolutely nothing to protect equipment from lightning.

I'm not going to ask anyone to trust me on this. But just be clear that how you think lightning works may not be how lightning has been found to actually work.

Search groups.google.com in the rec.radio.amateur.antenna newsgroup on Lightning and you should find plenty of information on how to protect your antenna and equipment from lightning if you so choose.

NEC code protects you. It's not designed to protect your electronics.
gpflepsen
Nice tip for information. After just a little poking around, I came across this:

QUESTION:

>How do I eliminate the danger of a lightning strike? I can't ground the
>copper pipe because the center conductor of the coax is connected.
>Naturally, I am concerned about damage to any electronic equipment
>connected to this antenna, but I am also concerned about actual physical
>damage to my house from a strike. I live in a coastal region, and we
>sure get our share of thunderstorm and lightning activity. There must be
>some way that this danger is handled, since so many vertical antennas are
>in daily use by SWLs and hams.

You have to provide a path for lightning currents to be diverted to
Earth in such a fashion that they don't go into your house and your
equipment. This is, of course, easier when you use an antenna design
which is bonded directly to Earth, the so-called plumber's delight
beam is one example, a shunt fed vertical is another. Sometimes there
are reasons why you want to, or have to, isolate the antenna from
direct Earth connection. That makes the lightning mitigtion job
a bit more challenging.

In cases where the antenna must be electrically isolated from Earth,
you have to use a controlled discharge device. This is basically a
spark gap designed so that normal operating voltages won't fire it,
but so that the higher voltage of a strike will. The simplest spark
gap is just an air gap, but because of varying humidity and air
pressure, an air gap's firing potential is ill controlled. The
better approach is to use a special gas tube. These tubes are
manufactured with precise gas mixtures and pressures to ensure
a very predictable firing potential. You want to select a gas tube
which has a firing potential just above the normal transmitting
potential at the point of insertion. The suppressor should fire
very quickly, in less than 2 nanoseconds, and should become a
*very* low impedance when firing (typically on the order of
a few milliohms). Polyphaser makes suitable suppressors.

Now lightning energy is *RF*. The energy of the pulse is distributed
over a very wide frequency span from ELF up through UHF, but most of
the energy is concentrated in the range below 2 MHz. There is so
much energy in the lightning discharge, however, that you can't
ignore the higher frequency components. This presents quite a
challenge for antenna protection because of the many possible
resonances in the antenna, antenna support structure, feedlines,
and lightning downleads.

There will be nodes of high voltage and nodes of high current
distributed over these conductors by the lightning discharge.
Since the lightning energy spans such a large frequency range,
the number of such nodes is huge, and it is impractical to
analyze them all. However, there is one which is of interest.
The suppressor you install should have a firing time on the
order of 2 nanoseconds, so we are interested in the voltage
and current distribution at a frequency of f = 1/t or 500 Mhz.

If practical, we'd like to install the suppressor at a point
which is a multiple of a halfwave at 500 MHz from the antenna
tip. This will put it at a high voltage node for the strike
during the period when the gas tube is building to firing
potential, assuming it is the antenna tip which is struck.
That's good because it will allow the largest differential
between the required hold off voltage of the suppressor due
to your transmitted signal and the potential generated by the
lightning discharge. In other words, it maximizes the margin
for the suppressor.

In your case, it is more important to put the suppressor directly
at the antenna feedpoint, because that will be a current node for
your transmitted signal on 20m, and will maximize the margin to a
greater extent than if we ignored that and located the suppressor
back down the line where it would be at a lightning maximum. There
is a "sweet spot" a few inches back from the antenna base where
the highest differential will occur, but anywhere within those
few inches will suffice, and we might introduce extra unwanted
inductance in the lightning path by locating the suppressor back
from the feedpoint too far.

Now inductance is the killer in the path to Earth. We want to
minimize that to every extent possible because it will act to
elevate the suppressor above Earth during the strike. And that
will elevate your coax shield, which will elevate your equipment,
and that allows a large current to flow through your equipment
to *its* Earth connection.

Ideally, your feedpoint will be directly at ground level, with
an essentially zero length path to Earth for the suppressor.
Even a few feet of straight wire will have sufficient inductance
to elevate the coax shield. So keeping this path short and straight
is vitally important. (Obviously, any bends in the downlead will
add inductance.) The lightning downlead must be at least #6 wire,
but a flat copper strap has less self-inductance and a greater
skin area for a given amount of copper, so that's even better.
Note do *not* use braid. It has a high self-inductance and a
high skin resistance compared to smooth solid strap.

OTOH, we'd *like* to have some inductance in the feeder going
into the shack. This will raise the impedance of the path for
lightning currents trying to reach your station ground. Coil
a few turns of the coax into a choke balun near the feedpoint
to provide this inductance. The phone company uses a half turn
loop, called a "drip loop" for this purpose in their installations.
We'll use a few more turns here.

Now this is all standard stuff, but you have another problem with
your installation. As I understand what you said, you're going to
stand the element up next to your house. This introduces the
possibility of *sideflashes*. Sideflashes occur when the
impedance to Earth is lower through some other structure than
through your intended downlead path. This can happen because of
the resonance effects noted above, and because of plain inductance
in the downlead path. The rule of thumb is that all conductors
carrying lightning surge should be at least 5 feet from any
structure not intended to carry surge currents. So be sure to
stand your antenna off at least that far from the house.

If I've misunderstood, and you intend to mount the antenna on
the roof, then you've got to be *very* concerned about downlead
inductance. Keep it straight, keep it wide, and keep it short.

Lightning can be considered to be a constant current source
with a current on the order of 8000 amperes. The potential
backing the constant current source, IE the cloud to ground
potential, can be many millions of volts. There is no practical
way to insulate against that. When you try to impede that
current flow, due to resistance or inductance in the current
path, those millions of volts will express themselves across
the impedance and drive sideflashes. That's why it is so vital
to minimize inductance in the downlead, and why you need
a large standoff distance to other structures.

As a final barrier, be sure to use a suppressor in the coax
at the station entrance bulkhead. This bulkhead should form
the *ground window* for your station. A ground window is the
point to which *all* conductors entering or leaving the station
area are tied, either bonded directly if nominally of ground
potential, or tied via a suppressor if they carry operating
potentials. This includes *all* conductors, including station
AC power, the telephone line if a telephone is in the station
area, any CATV line, etc. The ground window serves as the
station *single point ground*. It is then tied in turn to
a good Earth ground via a direct low inductance path.

The purpose of the single point is to ensure that if the
station's nominal ground potential becomes elevated during
a strike, all conductors become elevated roughly equally.
If there is no potential difference, there can be no damaging
current flow through equipment attached to those conductors.
Note that all conductors entering the station area must be
tied to the ground window *first* before going on to the
station equipment. And don't create daisy chains inside
the station. All equipment grounds should go directly to
the ground window. Bypassing the ground window with just
one wire will negate its protection.

The latter can happen all too easily. For example, if you
run an extension cord into the station area "temporarily"
instead of using conditioned station power which has entered
the station area through the ground window, a strike can fry
all your equipment, even though you've done everything else
right.

Gary
Foxbat
Mike_H said:
As long as the Coax is grounded per the NEC, static build up on the dish is of no concern unless the dish is at a location where you might be touching it. Any static would be shunted to ground were it to be electrically in contact with the LNB and the coax.
In some dish setups (Dish 500, for one) there is a piece of plastic isolating the LNB from the dish, so the static charge on the dish could build up to the point where it actually jumps to ground, maybe through the LNB. In this case, it would be necessary to provide a ground for the dish.
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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU
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harshness
When you need a battery, you need a battery.

If you can wait, new technologies are on the not-too-distant horizon.

You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
Jimbo
The guy in the Video, REALLY needs to TAKE a Breath ...
If he'd Slow down, you could figure out What he's testing and on what. :(
harshness
If he'd Slow down, you could figure out What he's testing and on what.
You can't view his videos passively.

I appreciate this approach to videos that take an hour to deliver a fraction of the same data.

Now, if YouTube were required to flag the AI "reviews", that would really be something.
dishstaller
You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
Jimbo
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

My last AGM (using now) I got from O Rielly's, its the Super Start ... I got the Platnium, they had several to choose from.
TRG
TRG
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
I've been buying my batteries from AutoZone. I avoid Walmart whenever possible.
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I appreciate this approach to videos that take an hour to deliver a fraction of the same data.
That's the way I feel about it.
I hate those videos where they show themselves slowly opening up the box and unwrapping it.
His videos are probably the fastest pace test videos on Youtube.
T
He sounds like he's trying to sell me a pocket hose.

I just had to replace a car battery this week and thought I'd look into LiFePo4. Amazon has plenty of them, but all have top posts and only one 'also' has side connections (Group 75).Then I read that they're really lousy in the cold. So, an AGM, but again, almost nothing with side terminals instead of top. In researching that, I read that most mfrs in recent years have dropped side terminals and gone back to the old top posts, which is surprising to me since those are more corrosion-prone, cause the battery to need more space and are generally more hazardous. Finally I just threw up my hands and bought a regular lead-acid at Sam's Club. They had a Group 75 "Duracell" with side terminals only. It was virtually the only such battery with side posts on their shelves
arlo
Had a Die Hard in my folks cellar for over 6 years. Pulled it out, slapped it on a charger for a day. Put it in my 'Cuda and drove it around for a week of my vacation. Next year, the same. But my dad kept it topped off for me.It was a mid 80's battery in early 1990.

Flooded acid batteries like a float voltage of around 13.5-13.8 voltage.
AGM needs a float of 14.2 volts. So if you slap an AGM in where a flooded was. It never gets a full charge.
"Why do they die so fast?" Question answered. There are folks who sell voltage regulators for alternators that are designed to boost float voltage for AGM batteries.
The other way around? Flooded will gas-off a little at 14.2 volts. But seems to tolerate it pretty good.

Lithium car/bike/atv batteries. After 3 batteries in my Harley. The OEM flooded and two AGM's (before the 14.2 volt float requirement to let them live was learned). I bought a lithium for it. 4 year, no gripe warranty after having it tested by an approved store.
The thing started like Thor himself sent a bolt from the sky. Except......try to start it around freezing? Nope. Needed a heating pad.
And I usually like to park it around events in the evening with the parking light on. Looks cool like that.
We could traipse around for a few hours no worries. Hop on, fire it up, and go putt around.
Lithium? A Dakota Lithium at least. The BMS shuts it right down if it discharges below <something>.
Come back. Parking lights off. Won't start. And you know the rest. But it lasted 6 years. A lot better than 'new every two'. And the fact that powersports batteries are warranted for six, maybe nine months. Ludicrous.

I called Noco. Asked all of the right questions. Great warranty. Save some bucks ordering directly, faster service that the wally world alternative.
They addressed (or claimed over the phone) that the shut down was addressed. Sure. The BMS keeps it form being damaged. But if it is shut down because it does become low. Shut down any load (key on, parking or headlights left on) for 10-15 minutes and you get a second try to start your rig. Not a bad thing if it really works. Right?!

Exide, Interstate? Be very afraid. They ain't what they used to be. In Florida my '70 Cutlass had an Interstate (early 90') that lasted 6 years until it dropped its plates at an intersection and boiled over. In Florida, mind you. The last Interstate.....done in 2. Guys down there would suck out the acid and put water in shortly before the warranty ran out. Make it to the auto parts, get them tested. And get a new one pro rated. No more pro rating.
You can't beat an Odyssey. Napa, AC Deco (the better ones). Yup.
The mom and pop Car Quest only sells Die Hard. For a reason, the old man says. So they convinced that a Die HArd Platinum was the hot ticket for me. l will see. Stand by!

You can't cut Mr. Project Farm down. He does great tests of all sorts of things. Not sponsored and pressured to slap a little sugar on his comparisons and reviews. Compared to the Brits and Aussies with their constant overzealous and same sounding (Dave from EEVblog) rant. I like P-Farm a lot. Of course I like AvE (Boltr) too.
Reminds me to beware when wearing shorts around the garage vice.


Opinions may vary.
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I collect and play vinyl records regularly. A friend of mine told me about a record stash located inside an antique mall. So naturally I had to go go check it out.

records.webp
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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This Diamond Ring - Gary Lewis And The Playboys
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Gondoliers, Shakespeares, Overseers, Playboys and Bums - Norman Greenbaum
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I Wish I Was Eighteen Again - George Burns
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I Wish - Stevie Wonder
EatMyVolts
Lonesome Road -- The Wonder Who?
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Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
dfergie
Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Cold morning today, only 32 degrees. Fired up the oven and made cinnamon rolls (from a tube) and a pot of coffee.
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2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

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osu1991
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
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If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
T

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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TheForce
Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?
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Defective Modem?
It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
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Jimbo
Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
I use to watch that with my Dad back in the (60's ?) was that the 60's ?
K
I use to watch that with my Dad back in the (60's ?) was that the 60's ?
Mid 60's. I watched it too.
TRG
TRG
I loved all the Irwin Allen productions.
R
Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
When?
Foxbat
Mid 60's. I watched it too.
I had built models of the Seaview and the Flying Sub as a kid.
KAB
KAB
I loved all the Irwin Allen productions.
I thought Voyage was decent (for the first two seasons). The rest, not so much. All other shows were pretty lame, IMO. Especially Land of the Giants.
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
Barbara Even, LOL (cast of original film from article).
harshness
I remember hiding behind the couch from the many sea monsters.
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Now right up front....this is NOT intended to devolve into a "pot is good" vs "pot is bad" thread. The whole point is to make you aware of a potential problem that a person can develop when they start smoking pot at a young age. Not that they WILL, but CAN. Kinda like getting lung cancer from smoking cigs....some do, some don't. The purpose of posting this news story is to keep anyone from paying an outrageous emergency room bill......knowledge is power.
While this may not affect you, you might run into someone who is experiencing these symptoms and can share the info. Fortunately, it looks like stopping smoking is the cure and isn't a permanent condition.

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harshness
Another "might" with weed is gynecomastia (significant male breast enlargement).