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Mr Tony
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Almost got my Christmas FTA project done :)

Since it has been nice here in MN (40 today which is balmy) this past weekend I decided to tweak the T90 and add a couple more LNB's. Also wanted to test the limits of some of the 2 degree issues that the T90 has. Technically they say you can't get 2 degrees due to the brackets and the LNB size. Well, I wanted to see if how well I could do 2 degrees.

At the time the dish was aimed at 89 center and LNB's on 72,74,79,85,89,93,97,103,107

But I wanted more :)

So I moved the dish to 93 (which is my true south) and made sure 74 looked good. Adding 72 to 74 is real easy for me. Just put the holder on and make the LNB's touch. Most of what is on 72 I get. Not as strong as the motorized, but good enough to work. Then I slid down the LNB holder for 79. Then I added a holder to see if I could get 83/85. Locked 85 down strong (thank goodness for test cards) and wedged 83 there too. That is BOOMING. I had 89 & 93 but there hasnt been much on 89 latelly and alot more on 91. So can I get 91/93? Locked 93 in and twisted the LNB holder and bam. the test card on 91 at 80 on the Pansat :)
Slid 97 into place and I figured "well 101 is so dang strong I can get it with a smaller dish, so I can surely get the strong stuff with it offset". So I aaimed the LNB at 103 and tuned that (including the oddball offset) and locked down. 101 I barely moved and the strogn stuff was at 99. Even RTPi, which is weaker is at 60.

Added 107.3 & 111.1 for my Starchoice sub. Then added 119 for the audio. This took some tweaking as it was off the bar. Found an old piece of trim and cut and bolted to the arm (I had drilled a hole in the slide scale) and had to rig a bracket (I just cut the bottom of the holder off). Nice 90 on all TP's :)

So now I have 13 LNB's
72,74,79,83,85,91,93,97,101,103,107.3,111.1,119

I have a couple LNB's mixed on the switches. I put 72 V & 119 H together (most audio on Dish is on H polarity) and mixed 101 V & 103 H together. Just have to hook up the cables from the 4x1 diseqcs into the house.

1st picture is the whole thing
2nd pic is 101/103 (I had to shave a little off the plastic cap for 101
3rd shows the "Extension" for 119
4th shows the whole thing
5th is from 72 going down the line
6th shows 91 & 93
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Anole
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Now we know what all those switches were for, last week. :up
Though, I wonder if you have sufficient switching...?

A while back, I remember reading a thread about getting two birds at 4º on a standard 30-36" dish.
One secret was to use some very small LNBs, and snug them pretty close.
It seems like you have a lot of elbow room on this dish.
Would those tiny LNBs help, , , or are you already using them to get this far??

Happy Holidays.

edit: I have images of someone using a StarChoice twin LNB for 121, and adding a custom modified 119 to it, if you need some encouragement. :)
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Are the signals just as strong or close on all the satellites?
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Are the signals just as strong or close on all the satellites?
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Mike
The signals are about the same (or a little higher) than my 30" motorized. I know on AMC2 the signals are blech because of the footprint here in MN but the test card on AMC2 is at 90-95 on the Pansat (the 30" dish gives me a 70...30 is threshold)

I'm still working on SBS6 Vertical since those are not the best in MN.
AMC4 even though off (its wedged behind AMC1) has 99% on KUIL & 3ABN, 90 on Hope, 80 on LLBN and 60 on RTPi. AMC1 has a lot of feeds (although on the motorized I can never get them due to the skew being off)..IA5 almost all TP's are 90+
IA6 CBS News is 80, Doc Scott is 99, some of the feeds I picked up yesterday were at 80-85 (they were 75-77 on the 30") IA6 is my TS on this dish.
I still have to try IA8 as I could get a flicker (30-32) on ABCNewsNow but I have to fabricate something. G11 was pretty good. The test cards were strong and a couple feeds were a smidge weaker but still stable.

That was one of the reasons I got the Dish originally was to consolidate and hoped that the signals wouldn't be comprimised and the signals are just as good or even better in some cases.
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Anole said:
Now we know what all those switches were for, last week. :up
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yep. Trying to optimize the setup
Though, I wonder if you have sufficient switching...?
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the only one that doesn't have a home right now on the switches is 83. With 4 4x4 multiswitches thats 8 inputs...It's setup with
74,79,85,91,93,97 all have both lines run to the 4x4 multiswitches. SO there is 6 slots. I took 101 V & 103 H into another. Most of the feeds on 103 are on H and KUIL is V. The last was 72 V (most of the stuff is on there) and a feed from 119 H. Most of the music channels is on H polarity. I might change that to both of 119 for NASA and stuff and run a 4x1 with 72,83,101 and put the dual for 103 back on.

A while back, I remember reading a thread about getting two birds at 4º on a standard 30-36" dish.
One secret was to use some very small LNBs, and snug them pretty close.
It seems like you have a lot of elbow room on this dish.
Would those tiny LNBs help, , , or are you already using them to get this far??
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the LNB's that SatAv sells (these are the ones you're talking about) are singles. And it really isnt the LNB's that are the issue. Its the holders. They're just big.
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The signals are about the same (or a little higher) than my 30" motorized. I know on AMC2 the signals are blech because of the footprint here in MN but the test card on AMC2 is at 90-95 on the Pansat (the 30" dish gives me a 70...30 is threshold)

I'm still working on SBS6 Vertical since those are not the best in MN.
AMC4 even though off (its wedged behind AMC1) has 99% on KUIL & 3ABN, 90 on Hope, 80 on LLBN and 60 on RTPi. AMC1 has a lot of feeds (although on the motorized I can never get them due to the skew being off)..IA5 almost all TP's are 90+
IA6 CBS News is 80, Doc Scott is 99, some of the feeds I picked up yesterday were at 80-85 (they were 75-77 on the 30") IA6 is my TS on this dish.
I still have to try IA8 as I could get a flicker (30-32) on ABCNewsNow but I have to fabricate something. G11 was pretty good. The test cards were strong and a couple feeds were a smidge weaker but still stable.

That was one of the reasons I got the Dish originally was to consolidate and hoped that the signals wouldn't be comprimised and the signals are just as good or even better in some cases.
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Thanks for the info. I may get one when I move in the spring. I'm worried about loss of signal the most.
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Iceberg or others:

I understand basically what you are doing. You have one toroidal dish that is 42x40" with a bunch of LNBs. I can figure out the switching of the different LNBs using some sort of arrangement of my own (so I'd hope). Here is what I don't understand. Maybe someone would be willing to help?

I currently have a 10' C/Ku dish and related LNBs for both bands mounted on a typical big dish feedhorn. I use the analog receiver to tweak the dish on a C-band bird then either use the Ku side or switch the C LNB over to the FTA DVB receiver. This arrangement has been working fine (with maybe the exception of G10R). Now on to my question. Can a circular 10' mesh dish do the same thing or do I need a toroidal dish? My thinking is attach a bunch of LNBs to a bracket then aim the big dish at a "central" location such as my true south bird. Then align each of the individual LNBs and bring them in on one feed, one at a time, via switching. I tried once before to use a "universal" LNBf "off center" on a big dish but had zero success. (I could peak it for a signal on a meter but could not lock into anything.) I also have a small 36" dish taking up space in the garage. Would I be better off mounting this focused at one location and adding several LNBs?

It looks as if you are using two dishes; one aimed at the satellite, then another aimed at the dish to reflect back into the LNBs. Is this what you did?

Crazy idea.... Would it be possible to use one LNB and a stationary dish but move the LNB? Or does this get too complex to rotate the LNB polarity/skew correctly? Hmmm. Possibly a mechanical skew and manual box for adjusting skew?
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It looks as if you are using two dishes; one aimed at the satellite, then another aimed at the dish to reflect back into the LNBs. Is this what you did?
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That is the design of the Toroidal. The signal comes down, hits the mian dish, reflects to the "sub" reflector and hits the LNB.
Here is what I mean (From the Wave Frontier site)
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MikeI said:
Thanks for the info. I may get one when I move in the spring. I'm worried about loss of signal the most.
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last night I got to really try G11 being offset

The test card (12060) was at 75 on Pansat
I had a bunch of feeds (news feeds) but I had 3 sports feeds
feed 1 was at 55-60
feed 2 was at 45-50
feed 3 was at 70

Converselly, the same feeds on my 30" were at
feed 1 was at 40 and pixeling
feed 2 was at 32 and really pixeling
feed 3 was at 65-70

so even offset, it still game be better results than a 30". I think the bigger reflector might compensate for being off centre. I know you have the 40x30 Primestar dishes so I don't know what the difference in signal will be.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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Might want to watch this before you buy a new vehicle battery

Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


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When you need a battery, you need a battery.

If you can wait, new technologies are on the not-too-distant horizon.

You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
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The guy in the Video, REALLY needs to TAKE a Breath ...
If he'd Slow down, you could figure out What he's testing and on what. :(
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If he'd Slow down, you could figure out What he's testing and on what.
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You can't view his videos passively.

I appreciate this approach to videos that take an hour to deliver a fraction of the same data.

Now, if YouTube were required to flag the AI "reviews", that would really be something.
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You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
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Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
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dishstaller said:
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
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And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

My last AGM (using now) I got from O Rielly's, its the Super Start ... I got the Platnium, they had several to choose from.
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dishstaller said:
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
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I've been buying my batteries from AutoZone. I avoid Walmart whenever possible.
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I appreciate this approach to videos that take an hour to deliver a fraction of the same data.
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That's the way I feel about it.
I hate those videos where they show themselves slowly opening up the box and unwrapping it.
His videos are probably the fastest pace test videos on Youtube.
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He sounds like he's trying to sell me a pocket hose.

I just had to replace a car battery this week and thought I'd look into LiFePo4. Amazon has plenty of them, but all have top posts and only one 'also' has side connections (Group 75).Then I read that they're really lousy in the cold. So, an AGM, but again, almost nothing with side terminals instead of top. In researching that, I read that most mfrs in recent years have dropped side terminals and gone back to the old top posts, which is surprising to me since those are more corrosion-prone, cause the battery to need more space and are generally more hazardous. Finally I just threw up my hands and bought a regular lead-acid at Sam's Club. They had a Group 75 "Duracell" with side terminals only. It was virtually the only such battery with side posts on their shelves
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Had a Die Hard in my folks cellar for over 6 years. Pulled it out, slapped it on a charger for a day. Put it in my 'Cuda and drove it around for a week of my vacation. Next year, the same. But my dad kept it topped off for me.It was a mid 80's battery in early 1990.

Flooded acid batteries like a float voltage of around 13.5-13.8 voltage.
AGM needs a float of 14.2 volts. So if you slap an AGM in where a flooded was. It never gets a full charge.
"Why do they die so fast?" Question answered. There are folks who sell voltage regulators for alternators that are designed to boost float voltage for AGM batteries.
The other way around? Flooded will gas-off a little at 14.2 volts. But seems to tolerate it pretty good.

Lithium car/bike/atv batteries. After 3 batteries in my Harley. The OEM flooded and two AGM's (before the 14.2 volt float requirement to let them live was learned). I bought a lithium for it. 4 year, no gripe warranty after having it tested by an approved store.
The thing started like Thor himself sent a bolt from the sky. Except......try to start it around freezing? Nope. Needed a heating pad.
And I usually like to park it around events in the evening with the parking light on. Looks cool like that.
We could traipse around for a few hours no worries. Hop on, fire it up, and go putt around.
Lithium? A Dakota Lithium at least. The BMS shuts it right down if it discharges below <something>.
Come back. Parking lights off. Won't start. And you know the rest. But it lasted 6 years. A lot better than 'new every two'. And the fact that powersports batteries are warranted for six, maybe nine months. Ludicrous.

I called Noco. Asked all of the right questions. Great warranty. Save some bucks ordering directly, faster service that the wally world alternative.
They addressed (or claimed over the phone) that the shut down was addressed. Sure. The BMS keeps it form being damaged. But if it is shut down because it does become low. Shut down any load (key on, parking or headlights left on) for 10-15 minutes and you get a second try to start your rig. Not a bad thing if it really works. Right?!

Exide, Interstate? Be very afraid. They ain't what they used to be. In Florida my '70 Cutlass had an Interstate (early 90') that lasted 6 years until it dropped its plates at an intersection and boiled over. In Florida, mind you. The last Interstate.....done in 2. Guys down there would suck out the acid and put water in shortly before the warranty ran out. Make it to the auto parts, get them tested. And get a new one pro rated. No more pro rating.
You can't beat an Odyssey. Napa, AC Deco (the better ones). Yup.
The mom and pop Car Quest only sells Die Hard. For a reason, the old man says. So they convinced that a Die HArd Platinum was the hot ticket for me. l will see. Stand by!

You can't cut Mr. Project Farm down. He does great tests of all sorts of things. Not sponsored and pressured to slap a little sugar on his comparisons and reviews. Compared to the Brits and Aussies with their constant overzealous and same sounding (Dave from EEVblog) rant. I like P-Farm a lot. Of course I like AvE (Boltr) too.
Reminds me to beware when wearing shorts around the garage vice.


Opinions may vary.
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harshness
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Jimbo said:
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The days of the 84-month warranty appear long gone, regardless of brand or where you acquired it. Warranties tend to be shorter, with much greater dependence on quick prorating.

The big problem for lead-acid batteries (whether flooded or AGM) is that the US no longer produces lead (the last smelter closed in 2013) and must import it.

Recycling covers a good chunk of the need (~70%), but it isn't free.
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Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
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Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
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Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
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Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
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Me either ...
They turned out to be a Poor adversary ....
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They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
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They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
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And too many episodes centering on/around them as well...
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They turned out to be a Poor adversary ....
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As has always been the case for those consumed by their own financial enrichment. ;)
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Is Roku the new Legacy Cable?

The title was to catch everyone's eye lol! But it is a thought I've been having as I dev a Roku app for a client. You see many MAAANY years ago I got really interested in cable TV channels and even chatted with a regional carrier, Insight about what it took to get a channel number. It was surprisingly easy although prohibitively expensive.



You could petition, reserve a high channel number, they monitored performance and if they liked you, you'd get lower channel number overtime and cut into ad overlays.



Roku has a similar setup. Make an app, if it has a strong, original linear component you could get channel assignment on The Roku Channel.



As mixed as my feelings are on the current media landscape, I can't help but feel a little excited interest when I scope out the apps in the Roku store.
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Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.
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Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.
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All of those services have FAST Channels. FAST is a linear online broadcast stndrd. You notice how their linear channels all have some overlap? They are gettting paid for every second those streams are up without really having to do their own accounting. Best part is they don't even facilitate any of the stream bandwidth. Over glorified app stores on some android hardware. No reason NOT to stay in the game.
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It is largely because of the standard Roku remote that channel numbers are a distant memory on the streaming side of things. Because their competitors followed suit only reinforces that they were right.

Linear TV's death is a direct result of DVRs giving you what you wanted when you wanted it; why go back?
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FAST is a linear online broadcast stndrd.
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FAST is uniquely popular as a way of saving money. It isn't so much about consumption as passing time.
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Brutal review of Netflix's series Below

Don't know if any of you have watched this series yet, it would be interesting to see if you feel this review was accurate. It was very humorous to listen to however.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tsDO3y8I2c
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What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
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What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
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If the review is like the article, oi! Eighteen paragraphs into the review and... all they've done is not really talk at all about the actual thing they are reviewing.

Halfway into the "written" review, I know more about how the writer "thinks" than I do about what they are writing about. I understand their politics, their self-overestimated understanding of film, their inability to be funny.

Takes about 22 paragraphs to get to one that starts "Anyway, the story kicks off...". Talk about Slop! 😂
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Punditry is alive and well and just as divisive as ever.
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How Far? The 2026 Subaru Trailseeker Takes On Toughest Mountain Range Test!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!


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Direct YouTube Link - How Far? The 2026 Subaru Trailseeker Takes On Toughest Mountain Range Test!
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DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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WPLG Miami is testing on the stream server again

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660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
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Still with Choice package? My stepdad says when the game started he got black screen and something to do with not the right package.
He had the Twins the last 2 years and I saw the Wild screen on 668-1 when I was there a few weeks ago.
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There were some technical issues during the pregame, where 668 was showing the Pacers feed instead of the Timberwolves feed until a few minutes before the game.

On the stream API it looks like some areas need the Sports Pack, what's his zip code?
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The BLUES, BLUJCKTS, HURCANES and WILD channels are now active and no longer pointing to the TV Promise slate
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For those dazn nba channels are they sat only or sat & streaming
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This Web Vulnerability Shook the Tech World

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All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
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Foxbat said:
Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
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have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
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Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
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slow_poke_pete said:
have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
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Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
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Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
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that would be one hell of a convo :biggrin.
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telstar_1 said:
Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
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New more efficient encoders. I think there's around 60 channels/sub channels now in the Tulsa dma. 480 widescreen for most of the sub channels, but some have 2 HD channels and a couple of SD sub channels while others have 1 HD and 5 or more SD sub channels. If they moved to mp4 or hevc encoding they could do higher bitrates for SD or more HD or even 4K in that 6Mhz channel. That could render some early digital tvs unable to tune though as they may not have the codecs for that. Considering 4K tvs have been on sale for years, I think it would be a very small minority of TVs with the problem. I'd rather see that happen and keep ATSC 1 than continue the move to a DRM enforced ATSC 3 world.
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