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adamhochman
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Interested in Dish-few questions about the service

Hello,

I'm a DirecTV customer, but I'm seriously thinking about coming to Dish, in part for the 622. However, I have a few questions about the service and Dish hardware. Thanks in advance if you can enlighten me.

1. Do the DVR's have to be hooked up to a phone line? DTV has this to, but in reality they don't have to be hooked up (I think it's only for PPV, which I don't get). I saw that the 622 has to have a phone line. Is that the case? If so, is there some sort of wireless transmitter on the market or something that can get a phone signal to the TV (my phone jack is across the room)?

2. I'm also looking a Fios, which apparently has a lot of Video on Demand. I can't tell from the Dish website about the quantity or quality of the VOD. Can you tell me?

3. I was told by a salesman at Radio Shack that in order to have PIP with the 622, the TV itself has to have PIP. That seems contrary to what I've heard since the multiple signals are coming from the sat, not the TV. Can someone clarify?

4. Also, if I have two 622's, will I be able to get PIP on each of the main TV's (TV1) for the 622?

5. Can someone tell me how the connection between the two TV's on the 622 works? Is it wireless? I need it to be because my TV1 and TV2 on the 622 are on separate floors, and the wife will not let me run cables between the two.

I hope some of you very knowledgable people can give me some great insight. Thanks in advance for your help.

Adam
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bderouen ,
Thanks for information.
I have a question about #5, as it seems you contradicted JimK2. Are you telling me no connection is needed between the two boxes in the house (JimK2 said a coax has to run between the two boxes, inevitably through the house)?

Also, the RF video extender JimK2 mentioned, do these work well? I'm not that familiar with them.
Thanks again.
Adam
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adamhochman said:
bderouen ,
Thanks for information.
I have a question about #5, as it seems you contradicted JimK2. Are you telling me no connection is needed between the two boxes in the house (JimK2 said a coax has to run between the two boxes, inevitably through the house)?
Adam
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A coax is not needed between the boxes, they re-use your existing coax wiring. Assuming you have a coax line coming in to each room already you will have no problems. The send the output of the 622 out on the same line coming into it that then gets pushed arounf your house coax distribution.
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One thing to mention, in case you didn't catch it, the 622 has only one OTA ATSC tuners in it, vs. D*'s HR10-250 or HR20 which has two. That might be a problem if you don't have your local HD channels via E*.
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A coax is not needed between the boxes, they re-use your existing coax wiring. Assuming you have a coax line coming in to each room already you will have no problems. The send the output of the 622 out on the same line coming into it that then gets pushed arounf your house coax distribution.
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:up VIP 622 TV2 out, if the OP does not have existing coax wiring runinng to each room or the Dish installer used the (one) coax cable that was already installed to
bring signal to VIP 622, you can use diplexer's to run 'two signal's. Satellite up and TV2 down, on a single coax.:up
http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tv2cro1.jpg

I hook this up for my Dad from his computer video card S-Video out to his TV about 30 feet through 2 walls and works fine. Television (or other video display device) with Composite Video -OR- S-Video (S-VHS) and RCA audio inputs also works.
http://www.grandtec.com/ultimatewireless.htm

Also look at this
MyVideo/5.8 Wireless Sender and Receiver
http://www.mytvstore.com/product_id_038.html
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Yes...what Primetimeguy said is correct. As I said, I may not have explained it correctly. All I know is I originally had coax from cable coming into my 2nd floor bedroom and then it was split from there going downstairs to my living room. They used the existing cabling and connected it. I know they did not run another coax from my bedroom to the living room, as the way everything was run originally, it would not have been possible. So I know they used what was there.

Bruce
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Hi everyone. I am in the same boat as Adam, DTV customer thinking about switching to Dish. I'm on the verge of purchasing my first HDTV and am wondering if I should pay extra for a TV with PIP...until I saw that the 622 will do it internally. So I have one more question - if you're viewing PIP (or split screen, when available), is there any way to get the audio out for both signals, or do you just get one only. My ideal situation is that my wife can have her Food Network program up or whatever with audio, while I have my basketball game on the PIP, but I'd like to get my program's audio out to some wireless headphones. Is this possible?? If not I may consider still getting a TV with PIP and run both dish receiver outputs into the TV so I can also make use of both audio signals. Thanks in advance!!
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Oh boy
regarding coax cables and running lines and the wife's openion
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i am a dish network installer to be honest just order it and when the installer shows up tell him exactly what u want to do and will him i dont wanna see any cables its doable plus the phone line u can get the wireless phone line ordered from dish itself for $40
as far as 622 pip u need one 622 for each tv to have pip on both tvs
1st 622 is $199 2nd 622 is $450 i beleive and i dont think u need to spend that much money on the second one one is cool
maybe u guys forgot to mention this TV2 on the 622 is not HD. u will see HD programming but the detail is good but its a regular 480 i
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Bruce
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How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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AZ. said:
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Jimbo said:
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
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Two MLB teams.
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Bruce said:
Two MLB teams.
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Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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I thought you might like that. :biggrin
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Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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I guess they should figure that out ... maybe not offer as much if they can't afford it next time.
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Auto Racing 2026

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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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Congratulations to the youngest Formula 1 World Champion, 20-year old Kimi Antonelli! The podium at the Mexican Grand Prix featured three World Champions with 4-time World Champion Max Verstappen, 7-time World Champion Lewis Hamilton, and newly-crowned World Champion Kimi Antonelli. A dozen World Championships represented!
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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At least for a couple more years
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FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
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It only took them 41 days to announce it
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