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For those of us who like to subscribe to MLB Extra Innings from Dish Network there is some real bad news brewing :

DirecTV-only MLB package?
Possible exclusive Extra Innings deal could draw Congress' eye
By JOHN OURAND and ERIC FISHER
Staff writers

Published December 25, 2006 : Page 01
DirecTV is in advanced talks with Major League Baseball about acquiring exclusive access to baseball's out-of-market Extra Innings package, a move that could be a huge blow to the cable industry and one that will certainly grab attention on Capitol Hill.

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article.main&articleId=53375
Sources from both the league and the satellite provider confirmed that the two have been talking but cautioned that there are a number of unspecified issues that need to be completed before any deal is signed.

A senior MLB executive said it was possible, but not likely, that a deal could be struck in the coming days. The executive added that baseball still was talking with other parties about the package.

Said a DirecTV executive, "If you look at what we've done with NASCAR and [NFL] Sunday Ticket, it would be a natural progression to look at other sports, like baseball."

In the past several weeks, MLB has been shopping the exclusive package to both cable and satellite providers. DirecTV started offering the Extra Innings package exclusively in 1996; cable operators have been offering it since 2001, and Dish Network joined in 2004. Last season, most cable and satellite operators sold the full season for $179, with some offering discounts for early sign-ups.

Both MLB and cable executives have been frustrated with the slow growth of the Extra Innings package, which numbered about 750,000 subscribers last season, media sources said. MLB teams picked up individual payouts in the neighborhood of $2 million per team last season, a source added.

By comparison, the NFL's Sunday Ticket package, which DirecTV offers exclusively, had close to 2 million subscribers this year, and DirecTV pays the league about $700 million per year through 2010.

Still, media executives with knowledge of the talks expressed surprise that MLB would go down this route given the current political climate. Congress has been particularly receptive to cable's complaints about the NFL's exclusive relationship with DirecTV. A little more than a month ago during a congressional hearing, Senate Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., harshly questioned DirecTV's Dan Fawcett about Sunday Ticket, and even threatened to sponsor legislation that would eliminate the NFL's antitrust exemption.

With the Democrats now in control of Congress, Specter will cede chairmanship of the powerful committee to Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. But Specter, who has represented Comcast's home state of Pennsylvania since 1980, still wields heavy influence and could keep the issue on the docket. Political analysts believe Specter and other members of Congress would be keenly interested in any baseball programming deal that exclusively favors one carrier over another.

If MLB and DirecTV agree to the deal, it would mark a significant setback to the cable industry, as its satellite competitors would gain more exclusive sports programming. Cable has complained for years about DirecTV's exclusive deal for Sunday Ticket. In the past few years, cable had access to MLB's out-of-market games through In Demand, a company owned by Comcast, Time Warner and Cox that supplies video-on-demand and pay-per-view programming to cable operators.

MLB is interested in linking exclusively with DirecTV because of how the satellite operator has grown its platform through its exclusive sports offerings. In addition to talks with MLB, DirecTV has approached the NHL about its out-of-market package, media sources said. The NHL demurred, since it has a rights deal with Comcast-owned network Versus.

Earlier this month, DirecTV signed a deal to launch five channels per week dedicated to specific NASCAR Nextel Cup drivers, a feature called HotPass. It also offers exclusive interactive features on events such as the U.S. Open tennis tournament and New York Yankees games exclusively on DirecTV's YES Network broadcasts.

Cable officials who spoke to SportsBusiness Journal on the condition of anonymity expressed disappointment in the buy rates for Extra Innings, but privately, they appeared unconcerned about losing the package to DirecTV. They point to the large number of national games available via ESPN, Fox and Turner as evidence that plenty of MLB games would still be available to cable subscribers.

It is unclear what connection exists, if any, between this potential deal and another in-the-works transaction for Time Warner to sell the Atlanta Braves to Liberty Media. Liberty is also in talks to acquire DirecTV from News Corp.
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Rethink This
I believe it's official, D* now has exclusivity of NFLST, MLB Extra Innings, Mega March Madness and the new NASCAR HotPass. Looks like we will be busy soon! No word as yet on games in HD.
jrbdmb
I believe it's official, D* now has exclusivity of NFLST, MLB Extra Innings, Mega March Madness and the new NASCAR HotPass. Looks like we will be busy soon! No word as yet on games in HD.
Official?? Source please.
jahlight
I am thinking of paying my early termination fee and jumping to D*. It seems you get a lot more bang for your buck from them. The only thing I like more on E* is the VOOM, that's it. Now D* has the MLB as well as the NFL. Hell they Sedanta too. Why should I stay with D*? Between $$$ and Sports, D* seems to have more.
Slamminc11
I am thinking of paying my early termination fee and jumping to D*. It seems you get a lot more bang for your buck from them. The only thing I like more on E* is the VOOM, that's it. Now D* has the MLB as well as the NFL. Hell they Sedanta too. Why should I stay with D*? Between $$$ and Sports, D* seems to have more.

how many different threads are you going to post this in???:rolleyes:
Peter Parker
I believe it's official, D* now has exclusivity of NFLST, MLB Extra Innings, Mega March Madness and the new NASCAR HotPass. Looks like we will be busy soon! No word as yet on games in HD.


Not officail yet but very little doubt.
Jim5506
How many lost-leaders do they need.
Foxbat
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Hmmm, Apple iCloud appears to be missing from the Internet. Attempting to connect yields:
1794355836427.webp
Plus, lots of prompts to enter my iCloud credentials.
1794356039809.webp​
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Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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Jimbo
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Bruce
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
AZ.
AZ.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
Bruce
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Bobby
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
AZ.
AZ.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
TRG
TRG
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Bruce
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Jimbo
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Bruce
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Two MLB teams.
Jimbo
Two MLB teams.
Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
TRG
TRG
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
I thought you might like that. :biggrin
Jimbo
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
I guess they should figure that out ... maybe not offer as much if they can't afford it next time.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
Foxbat
Congratulations to the youngest Formula 1 World Champion, 20-year old Kimi Antonelli! The podium at the Mexican Grand Prix featured three World Champions with 4-time World Champion Max Verstappen, 7-time World Champion Lewis Hamilton, and newly-crowned World Champion Kimi Antonelli. A dozen World Championships represented!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Look Back - Boston
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Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
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Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
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(They Long To Be) Close To You -The Carpenters
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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
TRG
TRG
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
b4pjoe
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
At least for a couple more years
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