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davec53

Last reply Jan 5, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

HD observations so far...

i've only had the 622 and HD package for a couple of months now, but here's what i think so far.

there are STRIKING differences between the HD channels that have SD counterparts on Dish...ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, FoodTV, etc. the HD versions just blow me away, period.

i really enjoy the Rave channel, and I also love the Discovery HD channel. there's a few others scattered in there that are pretty good too. all in all, we seem to be watching quite a bit of the HD package.

now, here's one of the things that is a let down. the movie channels, HBO, Starz, and Showtime, all look far better in HD than do the SD versions of those channels, BUT...even when they broadcast a movie that is supposed to be in HD (according to TitanTV), to me, there's no real improvement, to me, over watching that same movie via a DVD player hooked up via Component. i guess i was expecting that a HD movie coming from an HD movie channel would be right up there with what a Blu Ray or HD-DVD movie would look like, but I have to believe that what we're seeing through Dish broadcasts on the movie channels isn't quite up to the High Def DVD platform.

so, is the big difference between say content on Discovery or ESPN HD and content on like HBO HD due to the fact that the content on Discovery and ESPN was actually SHOT in HD, while the movies may not have been?

anyway, overall, i'm very happy, and now i'm just looking forward to getting the locals out of Lexington, KY in HD (which who knows when that will happen) and some other new HD content.

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Julien

Jan 4, 2007

You may be confusing the softer look of film telecine to HD with video HD.

Film has more than enough resolution for HD (it is theorized that 35mm is equil to about 4000 lines vs. 1080 for HD video) but it still looks like film and doesn't have the pop or wow factor of HD video.

davec53

Jan 5, 2007

Julien said:
You may be confusing the softer look of film telecine to HD with video HD.

Film has more than enough resolution for HD (it is theorized that 35mm is equil to about 4000 lines vs. 1080 for HD video) but it still looks like film and doesn't have the pop or wow factor of HD video.

i suspected that this was more in line with what was going on. i imagine that the content that is shown on say ESPN or FoodTV or DiscoveryHD was shot with cameras specifically designed for HD content, not film. that's why it just "pops" off the screen and looks so vibrant.

i'm not saying the HD movie channels look BAD...they look way better than the SD versions. i'm just saying that i can't tell a LOT of difference between the HD movie channels and watching those same movies on a regular DVD player (no upconverting). i haven't seen the High Def dvd players yet...i'd like to, though.

KKlare

Jan 5, 2007

Hate to bring this up but have you checked your output resolution? If your TV does not tell you it is getting 1080i or 720p, as appropriate, then you need to go through the menus and select it rather than 480 lines. This will greatly improve your viewing--your HiDef-ness.
-Ken

davec53

Jan 5, 2007

KKlare said:
Hate to bring this up but have you checked your output resolution? If your TV does not tell you it is getting 1080i or 720p, as appropriate, then you need to go through the menus and select it rather than 480 lines. This will greatly improve your viewing--your HiDef-ness.
-Ken

i don't think this is it. i've set up my 622 to output at 720p and 1080i, to compare a little bit. i'm definitely getting good HiDef-ness...i'm just not as blown away by the movie channels as i am by the other networks i've mentioned.

i'm not saying they aren't better than my DVD player...just that the difference between the DVD and the same movie on a HD channel is not nearly as much, in my opinion, as the difference between a program on ESPN SD and ESPN HD, for example.

KKlare

Jan 5, 2007

I find Stars and some Showtime soft compared to HBO. (HBO is not what it was, either.) Voom was degraded but is still better than most except on some grainy old movies.
-Ken

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cp2k

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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Jimbo

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cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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meStevo

Yesterday at 4:38 PM

Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

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Jimbo

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cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

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Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

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ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.