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MyDogHasFleas

Last reply Jan 8, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Want to go Dish from Cable, worried about install, advice please?

Current setup:

fairly new house, using cable now, no legacy satellite at all
home-run-wired RG-6/U cable spec'd at 2.5 GHz
single drop to each room
one drop to the outside wall for cable company connection
wiring box in master bedroom closet

Want:

Dish Network AT250 with HD package and premiums like HBO
no internationals needed

Single dish (I'm in Austin TX), presumably using DishPro or DishPro Plus

SD locals from sat, HD locals via OTA antenna
currently using indoor rabbit ears, works fine for HD OTA
would like a better antenna (mounted with dish?)

HDTV in living room, SDTV in master bedroom, both run off VIP622 box

Two SDTVs in upstairs bedrooms, no DVR needed

Questions:

1. What is the recommended dish type?

2. Can I do all this without running extra cable through my walls?

2a. If not, what is the maximal setup that I can have without running extra cable?

3. Connection diagram/description for the recommended setup?

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Claude Greiner

Jan 6, 2007

Although I would have preferred 2 cables to each room, you can get away with (1) RG6.

As far as wiring, the satellite installer is going to have to get to the wiring closet where all the cables in the house come to 1 central point, and run atleast 3 if not 4 cables to the outside to hook up the Dish and OTA Antenna

MyDogHasFleas

Jan 6, 2007

Claude Greiner said:
Although I would have preferred 2 cables to each room, you can get away with (1) RG6.

As far as wiring, the satellite installer is going to have to get to the wiring closet where all the cables in the house come to 1 central point, and run atleast 3 if not 4 cables to the outside to hook up the Dish and OTA Antenna

Thanks for your help!

Would the installer be able to utilize the RG-6 cable that currently connects to the cable company on the outside wall?

Also any thoughts about switches, etc? I am not sure how all this will work, over one cable per room. Band-stacking is another term I've heard? I'm really interested in how all this actually works when wired together.

slick1ru2

Jan 6, 2007

2 installers, 6 hours, holes drilled all over the place, cables laying all around the house, in a prewired house that previously had Dish (then cable)....hey, what's to worry about???

DishTechCO

Jan 7, 2007

As an alternative idea- A dish 1000 with one DPP Twin and one DP Dual run into to AUX port of the DPP Twin could be used. The antenna would be mounted on the same pole. Two RG-6 lines from the DPP Twin go into the SAT side of the diplexor. Two lines from the antenna go into the VHF/UHF side of the diplexor. Two lines go from there to internal home splitting location. Install the recievers there. Convert all the remotes to UHF instead of IR. Run your TV1 and TV2 lines staight from the back of the recievers. The SAT feed lines diplex back out in the same place. The SAT side of the diplexor will feed into a DP seperator. The VHF/UHF side of the diplexor will be run into a spitter. One line to the antenna in on the reciever. The other line goes to an "out" on a 2 way splitter. From the TV2 out on the reciever a line will go to the other side of that same splitter. The "in" on the splitter will be connected to the line of whatever room you want. (All this applies to both recievers.) SO... this way only one line needs to be run,there's no unsightly recievers in any room, and you'll get 4 rooms with independent progamming and the locals.

DishTechCO

Jan 7, 2007

Also, a 322 and 622 would work great!

MyDogHasFleas

Jan 8, 2007

DishTechCO said:
As an alternative idea- A dish 1000 with one DPP Twin and one DP Dual run into to AUX port of the DPP Twin could be used. The antenna would be mounted on the same pole. Two RG-6 lines from the DPP Twin go into the SAT side of the diplexor. Two lines from the antenna go into the VHF/UHF side of the diplexor. Two lines go from there to internal home splitting location. Install the recievers there. Convert all the remotes to UHF instead of IR. Run your TV1 and TV2 lines staight from the back of the recievers. The SAT feed lines diplex back out in the same place. The SAT side of the diplexor will feed into a DP seperator. The VHF/UHF side of the diplexor will be run into a spitter. One line to the antenna in on the reciever. The other line goes to an "out" on a 2 way splitter. From the TV2 out on the reciever a line will go to the other side of that same splitter. The "in" on the splitter will be connected to the line of whatever room you want. (All this applies to both recievers.) SO... this way only one line needs to be run,there's no unsightly recievers in any room, and you'll get 4 rooms with independent progamming and the locals.

... but no component video or HDMI connections to TVs, right? So no HD TV? This is a nice idea (and one I had thought of, though not in this much detail), but I had discarded it because of that issue.

I am thinking that I will get someone (the installer?) to fish some more cables to my living room setup and make that the media center, with the ViP622 box, the HD TV, the DVD player, and a computer.

I think I'll need 4 RG-6/U cables and two Cat6 UTP cables.

One UTP for Ethernet, one for phone line.

The RG-6/U cables would be:

- 2 for sat input to ViP622
- 1 for OTA input to ViP622
- 1 for TV2 out to the rest of the house

I did see the post on combining basic cable and TV2-out on one RG6 cable. I might want to do that too.

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cp2k

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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

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cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

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Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

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The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.