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I think I found one of maybe the 2 ways to use 2 22k switches
I put my SC dish up for G10 and put a DBS LNB for 119. So I had to peak on the LNB that has the 22k off. So I wondered can I run 2 lines from the quad LNB and the 2 lines from the 119 LNB to a 4x4 multiswitch?
well, the answer is yes (sort of). The SC LNB has a 22k switch built in to select between 107.3 & 111.1 in a SC world. So in my setup, G10 is the 0k side and Horizons 1 (127W) is the 22k side. Hooked up the 0k side of the multiswitch to the SC LNB and the 22k side to the DBS LNB
and it works...because the receiver is not sending the 22k "burst" so it goes through the 0k side of the switch up tot he LNB and using the 0k side of the LNB. I tried to hook the 22k side to the SC dish thinking that the 22k would send a signal and go to the LNB but that didn't work
so in this case I am able ot use 2 22k switches in a row
The only other way I'm thinking that this will work is if someone has a Universal LNB offset on a motorized (the mian LNB would be a standard) and they put the 22k side of the switch to the standard LNB. So whent he 22k iss ent, you'd get the standard LNB and when the 22k is off, you would get the low band of the Universal (which is what PAS9 pretty much has)
so the setup is pretty sweet
receiver-----------22k-----------0k side of SC LNB
------------------------------------22k side of SC LNB (this LNB is dead)
------------------------------------22k--------------DBS LNB
I put my SC dish up for G10 and put a DBS LNB for 119. So I had to peak on the LNB that has the 22k off. So I wondered can I run 2 lines from the quad LNB and the 2 lines from the 119 LNB to a 4x4 multiswitch?
well, the answer is yes (sort of). The SC LNB has a 22k switch built in to select between 107.3 & 111.1 in a SC world. So in my setup, G10 is the 0k side and Horizons 1 (127W) is the 22k side. Hooked up the 0k side of the multiswitch to the SC LNB and the 22k side to the DBS LNB
and it works...because the receiver is not sending the 22k "burst" so it goes through the 0k side of the switch up tot he LNB and using the 0k side of the LNB. I tried to hook the 22k side to the SC dish thinking that the 22k would send a signal and go to the LNB but that didn't work
so in this case I am able ot use 2 22k switches in a row
The only other way I'm thinking that this will work is if someone has a Universal LNB offset on a motorized (the mian LNB would be a standard) and they put the 22k side of the switch to the standard LNB. So whent he 22k iss ent, you'd get the standard LNB and when the 22k is off, you would get the low band of the Universal (which is what PAS9 pretty much has) so the setup is pretty sweet
receiver-----------22k-----------0k side of SC LNB
------------------------------------22k side of SC LNB (this LNB is dead)
------------------------------------22k--------------DBS LNB
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you stuck that 22khz where ?
You're connecting the StarChoice LNB (with its built-in 22khz switch), to an external 22khz switch.
And you're saying the external 22khz switch passes tone to the LNB it selects on the tone-on side?
...and obviously not to the tone-off input side...
So, if I understand you correctly, you use the external 22khz switch to select between the G10@123 of the StarChoice LNB (through the tone-off side), -or- the DBS 119 LNB hooked to the tone-on side of the external switch?
That still only gives you a choice of two sources. With the tone...
off = the SC tone-off or 123
on = the external DBS LNB
There is no way to select the other side of the StarChoice LNB (@127)
What am I missing, other than getting to reuse an otherwise useless StarChoice LNB?
This -is- somewhat like finding a creative way to use the Phase III dish with integrated switch, I suppose.
Sounds like it should work fine.
Though, I have my doubts why anyone would want such a configuration.
Maybe because those are the LNBs and switches they had left over...?
(why wouldn't you just put the universal as the main LNB and be done with it?)
And this should open up a lot of other creative ways to use 22khz switching.
I know I'll be thinking about it more in the future.
Thanks.
You're connecting the StarChoice LNB (with its built-in 22khz switch), to an external 22khz switch.
And you're saying the external 22khz switch passes tone to the LNB it selects on the tone-on side?
...and obviously not to the tone-off input side...
So, if I understand you correctly, you use the external 22khz switch to select between the G10@123 of the StarChoice LNB (through the tone-off side), -or- the DBS 119 LNB hooked to the tone-on side of the external switch?
That still only gives you a choice of two sources. With the tone...
off = the SC tone-off or 123
on = the external DBS LNB
There is no way to select the other side of the StarChoice LNB (@127)
What am I missing, other than getting to reuse an otherwise useless StarChoice LNB?
This -is- somewhat like finding a creative way to use the Phase III dish with integrated switch, I suppose.
That idea makes my brain itch almost as much as the first example.... The only other way I'm thinking that this will work is if someone has a Universal LNB offset on a motorized (the mian LNB would be a standard) and they put the 22k side of the switch to the standard LNB. So when the 22k is ent, you'd get the standard LNB and when the 22k is off, you would get the low band of the Universal (which is what PAS9 pretty much has)
Sounds like it should work fine.
Though, I have my doubts why anyone would want such a configuration.
Maybe because those are the LNBs and switches they had left over...?
(why wouldn't you just put the universal as the main LNB and be done with it?)
And this should open up a lot of other creative ways to use 22khz switching.
I know I'll be thinking about it more in the future.
Thanks.
M
Someone wants Cubavision but can't see Hispasat so they have to use it on PAS9. I know what your saying but......if someone wants to slave an analog box to their setup. A Universal LNB screws up the analog box by having everything off by 150mhz (and they wont see channels 18-24 on the analog).....then I would almost say "use a diseqc"
(but I had to mention this otherwise someone would have said "no there's another way to use 2 22k switches in series"
correct. I would set up G10 as normal (22k off) and the DBS would be set to 22k on. I'll be using a 4x4 multiswitch instead of a simple 22k switch but the principle is the same.You're connecting the StarChoice LNB (with its built-in 22khz switch), to an external 22khz switch.
And you're saying the external 22khz switch passes tone to the LNB it selects on the tone-on side?
...and obviously not to the tone-off input side...
So, if I understand you correctly, you use the external 22khz switch to select between the G10@123 of the StarChoice LNB (through the tone-off side), -or- the DBS 119 LNB hooked to the tone-on side of the external switch?
no. The 22k built into the StarChoice LNB is pretty much useless
you're not missing anything. I guess the main reason I tried it was so I didnt have to try and fabricate a LNB holder to put on it.
Someone wants Cubavision but can't see Hispasat so they have to use it on PAS9. I know what your saying but......if someone wants to slave an analog box to their setup. A Universal LNB screws up the analog box by having everything off by 150mhz (and they wont see channels 18-24 on the analog).....then I would almost say "use a diseqc"
(but I had to mention this otherwise someone would have said "no there's another way to use 2 22k switches in series"
M
Instead of using a 3x4 multiswitch to split the DBS feed to 4 and to tie each one with a diseqc, this makes it much easier. Yes I wont have access to the 127 LNB but there is nothing free on there
FTA is such a fun hobby. It allows us to test the limits and try weird things.
If it works thats something else to post that was tried. If it doesn't, oh well chalk it up to experience
in my case, running 2 lines from the SC dish and 2 lines from the 119 LNB to a 4x4 multiswitch out to multiple receivers is the reason
Instead of using a 3x4 multiswitch to split the DBS feed to 4 and to tie each one with a diseqc, this makes it much easier. Yes I wont have access to the 127 LNB but there is nothing free on there
that too
FTA is such a fun hobby. It allows us to test the limits and try weird things.
If it works thats something else to post that was tried. If it doesn't, oh well chalk it up to experience
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.
If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
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I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.
A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won
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This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
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Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)
Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.
Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
