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Last reply Jan 7, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Caller ID Block

Due to the nature of my work, I have caller ID blocked on my phone. How will E handle calls in from an IRD with caller ID blocked?

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Mr Tony

Jan 6, 2007

doesnt matter

They use ANI which verifies the number your box is calling from. Even is you block the call it still shows when the box calls out

lots of companies use ANI

DishSubLA

Jan 7, 2007

Iceberg said:
doesnt matter

They use ANI which verifies the number your box is calling from. Even is you block the call it still shows when the box calls out

lots of companies use ANI

Absolutely! These are general remarks, not intending for anyone in particular:

Many people are shocked to learn of this technology/loophole in the law. But, as usual, big business always has a big hand in crafting laws that favor them at the expense of consumer privacy, often with the threat of suing states or just leapfrogging to the U.S. Congress to trump the states.

I have no complaint of Dish having the ability to verify legitimacy of accounts using this technology the law allows; I do have a very big problem with many other companies that don't need such information but can legally capture it for their own exploitation.

LER

Jan 7, 2007

since the IRD calls in on an 800 number, which E* pays for, why shouldn't they know what Phone #'s are calling, and costing them minutes?

It's not a "loophole".

LER

JohnL

Jan 7, 2007

DishSubLA said:
Absolutely! These are general remarks, not intending for anyone in particular:

Many people are shocked to learn of this technology/loophole in the law. But, as usual, big business always has a big hand in crafting laws that favor them at the expense of consumer privacy, often with the threat of suing states or just leapfrogging to the U.S. Congress to trump the states.

I have no complaint of Dish having the ability to verify legitimacy of accounts using this technology the law allows; I do have a very big problem with many other companies that don't need such information but can legally capture it for their own exploitation.

DishSub,

First off this is NOT about Congress caving to big business.

This is about FAIRNESS. Toll Free numbers are NOT toll free. Really the name is a misnomer, it should be called TOLL FORWARDING.

A company that has a "Toll Free" number pays for ALL OF THE LONG DISTANCE CHARGES. For this very reason those companies have every reason to be able to determine how much those calls are going to cost. Some Long Distance calls are more costly than others so if a company gets ANI data that company can tailor their phone system to answer more costly calls more quickly, to reduce costs and or to mitigate how much money their "TOLL FREE" service is going to cost month in and month out.

If you have a problem with this "loophole" that allows companies to know where and how much your call is going to cost them, then don't use 800 Numbers and call them on your DIME. BTW in most cases companies will give you NON "Toll Free" numbers to call if you do NOT wish to provide your Calls ANI information.

ANI information is only provided on "Toll Free Numbers".

John

faster68

Jan 7, 2007

So, what happens if one uses VOIP with an area code that is different than the actual service area? I'm about to switch my phone service to Vonage with an area code based in another state but I am not moving physically.

Mr Tony

Jan 7, 2007

it still shows up

and JohnL is right. Toll free numbers are toll free for the person calling it. The person/company that the TF number points to has to pay for the charges

BrianB

Jan 7, 2007

faster68 said:
So, what happens if one uses VOIP with an area code that is different than the actual service area? I'm about to switch my phone service to Vonage with an area code based in another state but I am not moving physically.

As long as the phone number matches the one on the account, they won't care.

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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

At least for a couple more years

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Last reply Today at 1:56 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

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cp2k

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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meStevo

Yesterday at 4:38 PM

Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

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Yesterday at 9:56 PM

I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:23 PM

cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

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meStevo said:
Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.

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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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ERSanders

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ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.