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January 08, 2007: 10:27 AM EST


WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday rejected an appeal from EchoStar Communications Corp. (DISH), which has been trying to overturn a national court order barring it from providing broadcast network TV programming to its subscribers.

Echostar has since 1998 been involved in litigation with broadcast networks over whether it was illegally providing some households with broadcast programs. Federal law allows satellite companies to provide rural subscribers with broadcast networks if they can't otherwise obtain a broadcast television signal. But Echostar has been accused of providing programming to ineligible customers, leading to a federal court order barring the broadcasts to all of its subscribers.

"That holding has had profound ramifications," Echostar said in its Supreme Court appeal. "It has deprived hundreds of thousands of individuals across the country of access to network television."

Since the filing of the appeal, however, Echostar has turned over transmission of the contested signals to a third party company, a company spokeswoman said. Under that arrangement, National Programming Service, or All American Direct, is providing the signal. Appropriate Echostar subscribers can, after contacting the company, receive the signals on their current satellite equipment. Echostar is also, in some instances, providing broadcast antennas for households that can receive the signals.

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta issued an injunction last year that covered all of Echostar's subscribers rather than just the subscribers who were wrongly receiving the signals. Prior to the December 2006 deadline, Echostar and broadcast networks tried to reach a settlement.

The case is Echostar Communications v. Fox Broadcasting, 06-545.
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I don't know how much Congress will get involved now that NPS is providing distants. People who for the most part legally and legitimately can't get networks are still being provided a signal through NPS.

I think they'll look at that and call it a day on doing anything about the situation.
Zero327
Ya know, technically speaking, and I don't know, consider me uninformed... if Echostar were to be... "acquired" by another company, however Unky Charlie and pals remain in control, the company would cease to be Echostar, which would invalidate the courts order. So would any form of merger...

Just a thought.
Voyager6
I don't know how much Congress will get involved now that NPS is providing distants. People who for the most part legally and legitimately can't get networks are still being provided a signal through NPS.

I think they'll look at that and call it a day on doing anything about the situation.
Are you forgetting that the networks and NAB are appealling the Judge's decision regarding E* and NPS? This will go before the same appeals court that ordered the shutoff. These judges seem to have a different social/political agenda than Judge D in Florida. If the Court of Appeals finds that E* and NPS are working "in concert", DNS will disappear again for E* subscribers. Congress needs to act to clarify and redefine the DNS and SV rules for satellite. It would also be nice if Congress would address the digital TV mess. Congress needs to force the FCC to define the rules for DTV reception.
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That appeal is going no-where's. The Magistrate and the Federal Judge have ruled that there is no violation of the previous ruling involving E* and NPS new venture in offering DNS. For the Appeal's Court to overturn, there is going to have to substantially more evidence presented to prove a collusion or conspiracy to violate the injunction. DNS on NPS is safe.
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For the Appeal's Court to overturn, there is going to have to substantially more evidence presented to prove a collusion or conspiracy to violate the injunction.
There is also the question whether the judge has applied the laws correctly.

It is the misapplication of the law by Judge Dimitrouleas that forced the Appeals Court to have the Judge issue the injunction in the first place. If the Appeals Court feels that Judge Dimitrouleas again misapplied the law (in this case the injunction and all case law associated with it), then we'll be back at square one again.
Stargazer
Ya know, technically speaking, and I don't know, consider me uninformed... if Echostar were to be... "acquired" by another company, however Unky Charlie and pals remain in control, the company would cease to be Echostar, which would invalidate the courts order. So would any form of merger...

Just a thought.

Maybe Echostar is saving this for something more serious.
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Under most circumstances, when a merger occurs, the acquired company still exists for quite some time. So, the acquiring company would then be subject to the injunction as long as "Echostar Satellite Corporation" continues to exist, even if it is a shell that has no functionality.

Think about Macy's take-over of Federated. I know for a fact that in the DC/Baltimore area, the POS systems still have not been converted over from the Federated systems (the local Federated in the area was called Hecht's). Therefore, someone probably holds a service type contract with "Federated", not "Macy's". It takes time for the merged company to go away; normally at least a couple of years.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
sdfntx
Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
long_time_Dish
(They Long To Be) Close To You -The Carpenters
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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
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TRG
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
b4pjoe
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
At least for a couple more years
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
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Now live:
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It only took them 41 days to announce it
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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing
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Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Jimbo
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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meStevo
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
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Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

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