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[VOOM] Lost ABC

>That did it. It's fully up and running. The only channel I'm missing
>is my local ABC. I know it's only one channel but it _is_ ABC >

(Alias!! - nuff said!)

>I guess I have to call Voom and tell them I need the installers to
>return?


>Quick Question.. does it matter what elevation the OTA antannae is?
>It's at the bottom of my roof (where the drain is) pointing upward.
>I asked the installer if it would help it he raised it up and he
>said no.


>Robert


Before calling Voom, do some research. Are you just not receiving ABC
or is it not mapped at all. If not mapped, you will have to request
it from Voom. If it is mapped, you need to figure out why you aren't
receiving it. Have you been to antennaweb.com (maybe .org, I don't
remember)? Plug in your address. Is the ABC tower the same place as
the rest of them? If not, you may have a directional problem with
your antenna as opposed to a problem with the antenna itself. You may
have to check with the station. Are they down? It's possible. Are
they broadcasting on super low power? If so, you might have to build
a house at the base of the tower with a 50' antenna in order to pick
it up.

If you are mapped for ABC, and receiving all of the other stations,
you've got a problem unique to your location. You need to sit down
and figure out what is causing the problem and the best solution. We
might be able to help, but we need much more info.

Rick




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Joe
[VOOM] Re: Lost ABC

Robert,
It's possible that the elevation is a problem. It was for me. My
installer put the ant on a first story roof off the side of my
house. I couldn't get some OTA's. The isntaller swore up and down
that moving it up to the very top peak of the house would not fix
it. They came out 5 or 6 times just trying to adjust it all to no
avail. I have a bi-directional WInegard GS2000A ant. Half of the ant
was behind the house in relation to the tower locations. The other
side was pinted into a large tree.

I was finally able to convice them to move the ant up to the top
peak where there are no trees or other obstructions and now I get
everything perfeclty. No drop outs, no pixelization. Even in down
pour rains my locals stay solid. I am 12 miles from the towers.

Hope this helps.





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Joe
[VOOM] Re: Lost ABC

Robert,
It's possible that the elevation is a problem. It was for me. My
installer put the ant on a first story roof off the side of my
house. I couldn't get some OTA's. The isntaller swore up and down
that moving it up to the very top peak of the house would not fix
it. They came out 5 or 6 times just trying to adjust it all to no
avail. I have a bi-directional WInegard GS2000A ant. Half of the ant
was behind the house in relation to the tower locations. The other
side was pinted into a large tree.

I was finally able to convice them to move the ant up to the top
peak where there are no trees or other obstructions and now I get
everything perfeclty. No drop outs, no pixelization. Even in down
pour rains my locals stay solid. I am 12 miles from the towers.

Hope this helps.





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ricksmithm3
Sorry - had to go shopping.

No, I have nothing to do with Voom, other than a customer. I know
only what I've discovered through trial and error working on my own
setup.

>From what you've just expressed, my guess is your ABC station is

broadcasting on extremely low power or has some other technical
issue. If all of your stations are within a couple degrees of each
other, and the same distance away, moving your antenna just slightly
shouldn't have that much of an effect. Is it UHF or VHF and how does
that compare to the stations you receive? What does your picture do
when you try to tune in that station? Does it bring up a box that
says, "no signal - try again later" or is it just a black screen?

I have a couple local stations that are very flakey. When they aren't
having technical issues, I receive them just fine. But, they
frequently can't get it right and then we all (Voom and non-Voom)
start complaining.

Send an email to the station engineer with your questions/problems.
See if you can find a group for your area on the Satellite Guys
forums (if you are unfamiliar, register with them, go to the Voom
group, and in the top section you will find a grouping for local
threads)and pose some questions about this particular station. Do the
same thing on AVS Forums (you'll find local groups under "HDTV local
and reception (or something like that). Have a little patience,
though, as all of the forums slow down on the weekend.

>From what you've described, I strongly doubt this is a Voom problem.

Maybe an antenna issue but I doubt that also.

Remember, I'm just a nobody taking a shot at your situation. Possibly
someone with a lot more technical knowledge than I will join in and
give you a hand.

Rick



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ricksmithm3
Sorry - had to go shopping.

No, I have nothing to do with Voom, other than a customer. I know
only what I've discovered through trial and error working on my own
setup.

>From what you've just expressed, my guess is your ABC station is

broadcasting on extremely low power or has some other technical
issue. If all of your stations are within a couple degrees of each
other, and the same distance away, moving your antenna just slightly
shouldn't have that much of an effect. Is it UHF or VHF and how does
that compare to the stations you receive? What does your picture do
when you try to tune in that station? Does it bring up a box that
says, "no signal - try again later" or is it just a black screen?

I have a couple local stations that are very flakey. When they aren't
having technical issues, I receive them just fine. But, they
frequently can't get it right and then we all (Voom and non-Voom)
start complaining.

Send an email to the station engineer with your questions/problems.
See if you can find a group for your area on the Satellite Guys
forums (if you are unfamiliar, register with them, go to the Voom
group, and in the top section you will find a grouping for local
threads)and pose some questions about this particular station. Do the
same thing on AVS Forums (you'll find local groups under "HDTV local
and reception (or something like that). Have a little patience,
though, as all of the forums slow down on the weekend.

>From what you've described, I strongly doubt this is a Voom problem.

Maybe an antenna issue but I doubt that also.

Remember, I'm just a nobody taking a shot at your situation. Possibly
someone with a lot more technical knowledge than I will join in and
give you a hand.

Rick



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D
I've missed ABC on my OTA since the beginning. I've missed a season and a half of Alias episodes. I've not given up on VOOM yet. I WOULD recommend you get that antenna moved to the highest point you can get with a clear path to your towers. Even relatively small tree branches can cause signal difficulty. Good luck and remember that this is not a VOOM problem particularly, it is an issue with your location relative to your local broadcast towers, any obstacles, altitude-related difficulties with your antenna's location, etc. Hopefully your installer remembered to install your pre-amplifier to your StealthAntenna or whatever you have when it was installed, because without it your range will be significantly shorter. With the pre-amp installed the Stealth antenna will get a minimum of a 35 mile and a maximum of a 60 mile range, depending on MANY factors. Of course, that depends on a clear line of sight between as highly mounted as possible antenna and the broadcast towers. If all your towers are between 270 and 272 degrees, then point your antenna at 271 and, IF your line of sight is not blocked and your antenna is mounted as highly as you can get it, you should have minimal trouble receiving those DIGITAL (not analog) stations as long as they aren't out of range. Weather-related phenomena can either increase your antenna's range or decrease it. In snow, I can get longer range with my OTA because the signal skips off the clouds and falling snow. In overcast conditions, my range drops slightly. I have several towers between 40 and 50 miles away that come in partially, solidly, or not at all, depending on conditions. Good luck to you as you study the situation further. That little stealth antenna with the pre-amp installed is not a bad antenna, it can do pretty well at times. The bi-directional Wineguard antenna mentioned above I've heard is also a very capable antenna. Looking into a rotor that would allow you to fine-tune your directional capabilities MIGHT help you out, especially if you have broadcast towers at odd angles to one another. If you haven't done so, check www.antennaweb.org for a list of OTA digital stations in your area. I concur with some others who have said to not be afraid to call or email your local station engineers. I've found many of them to be very helpful and willing to give advice on OTA reception.

Best regards,

Dave Farrow
Lancaster, PA
Charter VOOM member since 11/2003
comfortably_numb
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Not sure saving $24/year is worth it unless you're a hardcore Philo user. I'll stick with monthly.

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Jimbo
Not sure saving $24/year is worth it unless you're a hardcore Philo user. I'll stick with monthly.

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$24 for the Year, would be more useful.
Howard Simmons
$24 for the Year, would be more useful.
But when you cancel you still have to watch until the plan runs out. With monthly you're done at the end of the month.
Jimbo
But when you cancel you still have to watch until the plan runs out. With monthly you're done at the end of the month.
Sorry, my point was the expense.
comfortably_numb
$24 for the Year, would be more useful.

Philo's monthly price is reasonable, IMO, because it's still the cheapest way I'm aware of to get all the linear Discovery networks AND access to the Discovery Go apps.
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Jimbo
Philo's monthly price is reasonable, IMO, because it's still the cheapest way I'm aware of to get all the linear Discovery networks AND access to the Discovery Go apps.
I guess if it was something I used on a regular basis, I suppose.
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comfortably_numb
In other Philo news..

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Bobby
Oh boy, I can't wait! 😂
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K
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'Rockford Files' Reboot Gets NBC Pilot Order

I grow tired of all the reboots. Most I don't bother with but will depend on the actor chosen.
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long_time_Dish
Yeah, I'll check it out as well, but shan't be holding my breath...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...
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harshness
...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...
I can think of a few actors (including some females) who might fit the bill.

This will all depend on the storyline. I'm not sure how well it will translate. Modern TV hasn't been all that kind to PIs and even less kind to CIs (confidential informants).
K
Premier is Saturday, Jan 2nd. Moving to Thursday on the 7th.
long_time_Dish

I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...
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meStevo
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Foxbat
Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
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The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
Foxbat
Looks like Episode 55 is over at 09:00 HST, just under six hours. The USGS said the fountains reached 720' or 220 meters.
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Foxbat
The USGS Kīlaeua Webcam #1 has been showing overflows and doming from the North vent overnight. Maybe the volcanic plumbing has settled back into its two-three week cycle of fountaining?

But I do miss the little cinder cone that broke up in the last episode.
Foxbat
Sorry, I should have posted these earlier:

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We're still waiting on the start of Episode 56.
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At 08:01 HST 11/05/2026, the North Vent produced what I would call a "wet burp" after the precursory "pistoning" events, small amounts of lava pouring out of the vent for a few seconds to minutes and then everything recedes. There must have been a gas bubble holding thing back because two minutes later the lava started flowing out of the vent in all directions. Then, at 08:25, it stopped. What a tease! I thought this was how Episode 56 started.

About 12 minutes later at 08:38, the North vent once again started overflowing and picked up steam at 08:42. By 09:00, slight doming could be seen in the pool of lava in the vent. Surely this is it!

But, 09:50 and things wind down again. By 09:57 HST there's just fumes coming out of the vent. Phooey.

But then 10:00 comes and the heavy lava flows kick in again. This time seems like the real deal. At 10:30 HST there's little spurts of lava flying up in the air over the vent, but more from gas than a steady fountain of lava. This looks promising!

11:30 HST and the color of the lava is definitely hotter, and the intensity has picked up to a definite dome and precursor to fountaining. The USGS calls Episode 56 as officially starting at 12:10 HST:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-11-05 22:29:12 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Thursday, November 5, 2026, 12:29 PM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H514
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 56 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 12:10 PM HST on November 5, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 56 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 12:10 PM HST on November 5, 2026.

Lava fountain heights are relatively low at about 100 ft (30 meters), but will likely increase. Ground-level sensors near the eruptive vents indicate that winds are blowing from the northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
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osu1991
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M
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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dishstaller
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
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I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
dishstaller
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.
M
You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."
dennispap
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
I remember that also on my 722.
dishstaller
I remember that also on my 722.
Thanks.....has been too many years to remember clearly.
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Bobby
Keep in mind that the 722 had a built in OTA tuner and the 722K had a plug in module for OTA. The Hoppers and Wallys use an add on USB OTA dongle. I believe they are entirely different.
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osu1991
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osu1991
Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.
Foxbat
Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd🤓 since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.
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I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.
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osu1991
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
Foxbat
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks
I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes. 😕
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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