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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
I need more info about LNBs before I buy any equipment.
I see Dishes advertized with quad LNBs attached.
What does that do for you over a single one?
Does it get you more Sats without moving the dish?
And why get a universal LNB over a standard?
Anyway I am confused about what to buy for the best results.
Sam
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updatelee
invacom does make a quad linear, where all four outputs are linear, this saves you a multiswitch, but honestly multiswtchs are cheap, so I opted for the qph-031, two linear, two circular. works really well.
SatelliteAV
Here is a brief description of LNBFs for FTA reception.

A LNBF is a LNB with an attached feedhorn. LNBF polarity is usually controlled by voltage selection by the receiver and powered through the coax cable. LNBFs can be configured as a single feedhorn with reception of one satellite or two, three and recently four feedhorns for reception of multiple satellite from one fixed position dish. The LNBFs can be configured with many different outputs, supporting single tuner receivers or multiple tuners, with band-stacked frequencies or various switching methods allowing multiple receivers to receive programming from multiple satellites simultaneously.

There are 3 basic frequency ranges for consumer equipment in North America.
C-Band 3 - 4 GHz / 8 - 10 foot usual dish size
KU-Band 10 - 12 GHz / 30" - 4' usual dish size
KA-Band 18 - 20 GHz / 2' - 5' usual dish size

C-Band signals are transmitted in linear and circular polarizations. Most North American satellites transmit a linear polarization, but most of North America is covered by satellite footprints with circular polarization as well. Reception of circular polarized signals with a linear LNB is possible, but the signal will be attenuated by approximately 3dB (each 3 dB indicates a doubling of signal strength). Reception of some signals require the use of an extended frequency range LNB, though this is not common usage.

KU-Band Signals are transmitted in both Linear and circular polarizations. Most transmissions by Dish Network, Bell ExpressView and DirecTV currently are circular polarization and use the upper portion of the KU-Band from 12.2 - 12.75 GHz. (Note: recently the FCC allowed Dish Network to transmit 11.7 - 12.2 GHz, circular polarization in one orbital slot.) Most FTA transmissions in North America are linear polarity and use the middle of the KU-Band from 11.7 - 12.2 GHz and can be received using a linear standard LNB. There are additional KU frequencies that use the lower KU frequencies from 10.7 to 11.7 GHz. These lower frequency signals are received with an Universal LNBF, which can also receive the 11.7 to 12.2 frequencies. These signals can often be received in the US, but usually they are stations that are originating from satellites not specifically targeting the US Direct to Home market or are from international satellites. Standard linear LNBFs normally outperform Universal linear type LNBFs. There are several channels that normally can only be received with a Universal linear LNBF, but often, specific receivers allow the scanning of these channels using a standard LNBF as these receivers have the ability to scan frequencies below the standard low IF frequency of the 950MHz cut-off frequency.

KA-Band frequencies are transmitted in both linear and circular polarities and divided into two bands, 18.3 - 18.8 GHz and 19.7 - 20.2 GHz. KA-Band LNBFs are not currently readily available as KU single LNBFs, but are available in monoblock configurations with DirecTV and Dish Network multi-LNBF arrays. Very little programming is currently available for FTA. Expect increased use during the next few years.

What LNBF is best for your KU reception? If you wish to receive programming from more that two satellites, purchase a single LNBF with a motorized system. If you are interested in only 1, 2 or 3 satellites that are located within 10 or 15 degrees, you could use a single non-motorized dish with several LNBFs mounted in adjustable LNBF clamps (Note: satellites also would need to separated by at least 4 or 5 degrees). EXAMPLE 1 EXAMPLE 2 Purchase a Universal LNBF if you wish to receive programming from international satellites, otherwise a standard LNBF will usually provide better reception of the majority of signals available in the US and Canada.

Though Satellite AV chooses to no longer to distribute Invacom products, I would suggest that the QPH-031 combined Circular and Linear KU standard LNBF is a great LNBF that will receive the majority of FTA signals that the average viewer wishes to receive.
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Thanks for all the good info on LNB Sam
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I read in one of the other posts that you could download your local stations from the repay tower with a separate dish better than using an antenna. If that is true would I use a 30 inch dish with a LNBF pointed at the relay tower and connected to my FTA receiver?
Tron
I'm not sure what you mean, you won't get any satellite signals from a television tower. Usually, a transmitting tower gets its signal via a line of sight microwave relay (or sometimes via fiber) from the studio, which is usually a few miles or more away. A satellite dish won't pick up a microwave relay. The towers that you see with dishes are receiving at least some of their programming from satellites in space, the same ones we aim at. That is where you would aim your dish.
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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Foxbat
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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Will do!
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
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look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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look again mine says free for 1 month
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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wonder why it says that
Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.