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Why should Directv customers who lease the equipment that they paid for also have a commitment for one year for standard or 2 year for DVR or HD or HDDVR?
I know the commitment use to be to help subsidize the cost of the equipment.
But now things have changed now you have to pay for the equipment and when/if one decide to cancel Directv they MUST return the equipment or they will be charged for full payment of the equipment even after the commitment has been completed. Because the customer must return the equipment there is no longer a need to have a reason to subsidize the equipment as they will reuse the equipment. I think the commitment is just plain wrong.

Also when I replaced my leased H20 for a HR20 that I have installed myself Directv had the commitment restart for another 2 years. Another thing is I have returned the H20 using directv's equipment recovery kit and they are trying to say that they never have got it back and trying to charge me a no return fee of $ 257.00. I checked the fedex tracking number from the ticket and
has been signed and been in directv position as of December 26 2006. I called directv twice and they said that they will look into it. The $257 NRF is still on my bill. Sounds like directv is becoming a DISHonest company to me now.

Cable TV has more channels and On demand is starting to look like a better option now.

D* customer Since Oct 1995
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charper1
Being the devil's advocate; with the Christmas and New Year holidays along with being less than 30 BUSINESS days since they have received your return; I say some patience (along with continued monitoring and calls) seems to be in order.

I did a far less costly ($40) and very simple return for something I ordered for a gift this Christmas and had to return it to a much smaller company and even they said expect at least a 30 day turn time.

You never want to involve a lawyer except when really needed. And unless they are a friend the cost will far exceed the $30 or so.
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FYI, the boxes are not the only cost that goes into a new customer... the boxes and dish are probably the least expensive part of a new customer.

That guy that installed your system for free is not a volunteer, nor is the nice sales lady that helped you pick your package, nor anyone else along the chain from your phone call to your completed install.

They are Directv, not Unicef.
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I have installed D* dish and all boxes not D*
I am not a new customer
had been D* customer Since Oct 1995..

when i called about the no return fee the csr did not say anything about a 30 day turn time..

and if it did take a 30 days turn time why they be so quick to charge a NRF?
Jimbo
Being the devil's advocate; with the Christmas and New Year holidays along with being less than 30 BUSINESS days since they have received your return; I say some patience (along with continued monitoring and calls) seems to be in order.

I did a far less costly ($40) and very simple return for something I ordered for a gift this Christmas and had to return it to a much smaller company and even they said expect at least a 30 day turn time.

You never want to involve a lawyer except when really needed. And unless they are a friend the cost will far exceed the $30 or so.

As for the lawyer friend I mentioned, I did not suggest filing a lawsuit of any kind, I simply mentioned, IF he had a freind that was one, to have him give them a call.
I would not spend money on this type of thing unless you heard nothing for like 6 months or so.

They've only had it for 3 weeks now, as mentioned above, give them some time, perticularly with Christmas just around the corner.

Most rebates (I know this is different) take 8-12 weeks to recieve. however I would call them and talk with them first again, have them note on your account about this.

I would not pay this extra amount, seeing he's not responsible for them not processing it yet, but I would also make sure to hang on to his Fed Ex tracking slip.
Until D* recieving dept has processed his equipment, it will not show up on his account.

Jimbo
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Why should Directv customers who lease the equipment that they paid for also have a commitment for one year for standard or 2 year for DVR or HD or HDDVR?
I know the commitment use to be to help subsidize the cost of the equipment.
But now things have changed now you have to pay for the equipment and when/if one decide to cancel Directv they MUST return the equipment or they will be charged for full payment of the equipment even after the commitment has been completed. Because the customer must return the equipment there is no longer a need to have a reason to subsidize the equipment as they will reuse the equipment. I think the commitment is just plain wrong.

Also when I replaced my leased H20 for a HR20 that I have installed myself Directv had the commitment restart for another 2 years. Another thing is I have returned the H20 using directv's equipment recovery kit and they are trying to say that they never have got it back and trying to charge me a no return fee of $ 257.00. I checked the fedex tracking number from the ticket and
has been signed and been in directv position as of December 26 2006. I called directv twice and they said that they will look into it. The $257 NRF is still on my bill. Sounds like directv is becoming a DISHonest company to me now.

Cable TV has more channels and On demand is starting to look like a better option now.

D* customer Since Oct 1995

This is what I have been saying since March, when they started this stupid lease-with-contract program. How come D* charges $299 for the privelege to LEASE their HR20 with a 2-year contract dvr while most or all cable companies give it to you for a monthly fee for no contract? Another thing I don't understand is when new customers sign up for directv, then want to cancel before the year, they have to pay an early termination fee and have to send the equipment back. WTF is this early termination fee for then if they don't get to keep the equipment?
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FYI, the boxes are not the only cost that goes into a new customer... the boxes and dish are probably the least expensive part of a new customer.

That guy that installed your system for free is not a volunteer, nor is the nice sales lady that helped you pick your package, nor anyone else along the chain from your phone call to your completed install.

They are Directv, not Unicef.

How come the cable companies manage to pay their installers and CSR's without requiring contract for new customers? Doesn't make sense. I hope Malone ends all of this lease-with-contract sh*t that Murdoch started.
charper1
1. Cable cos do not work on a national business model like DBS. Thus not a REAL comparison.

2. Aren't most cable co installers are paid employees of said company; likely salaried too; just like the telco. They are here and other places I have ever lived or visited relatives.

3. With cable you constantly are renting, products slow to upgrade or change and the fees are generally built in and you continually pay month after month. AFAIK

I am not saying I 100% agree or disagree with the lease program; in fact I do prefer the purchase & install my own, BUT I see why they want to get away from that. Most people can't or don't want to do it themselves and surely do not want to maintain it. Also, when trying to troubleshoot, they need some set of standard that DIY'ers DO NOT follow. To this point I wish they employed their own DirecTV group and cut out contractors so they could fire people at will that consistently screwed up or slept during the training. BUT we know that won't work either on a national scale or keep prices down.
Bobby
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
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CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Ole Miss at Texas, Saturday 10-24, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Leftover carnitas with a giant KFC potato wedge, shredded mozzarella and hot sauce... Water
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
K
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
osu1991
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
K
I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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dfergie
S3 Ep22 Nemesis & S4 Ep1 Small Victories...
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S3 Ep22 Nemesis & S4 Ep1 Small Victories...
Two of my favorite Replicator episodes. :)
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The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
T
They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

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Me to the River - Talking Heads
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Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
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I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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