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I'm done - BUT I CAN'T TELL ANYONE!

The reason I have been willing to stick with Voom for the last 3
months was there was at least someone to talk to when bad stuff
happened. I've overlooked the PQ issues that continue to come and
go, the reboots that I continue to have to do, the diplexer issues,
the HORRIBLE program guide and most of all NO TIVO. But now that I
can't call and find out when my faulty LNB is going to be replaced
(waiting 3 weeks after initial tech call where STB was replaced)
I've realized Voom is not going to make it so I'm done wasting my
time. If they can't get recurring guide requests, the guide to
start where you stopped, customer service, installs etc under
control, there is NO WAY their DVR is going to work reliably within
the next year. I would cancel, but my calls aren't answered and my
emails/voicemails are not answered. I'm just going to stop paying
my bill and we'll see what happens. It's too bad, I really wanted
to like Voom.
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I haven't had your problems and I love my PQ but I will agree about Voom's so called "program guide".

I've had a program guide and this my friend- is no program guide.

Does it guide you really? I was told by my installer that " Voom has no real live program guide and if you really want information about what's on, go to the Voom web site". He was right, when we want to surf Voom and find out what's on and what's coming up, we can only use the Internet and it gets old.

He also said a big wig at Voom told him (my installer) that the reason Voom had no program guide was that because they were updated channels so much it would make it cumbersome to have a true program guide". What hooey!
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haldol said:
The reason I have been willing to stick with Voom for the last 3
months was there was at least someone to talk to when bad stuff
happened. I've overlooked the PQ issues that continue to come and
go, the reboots that I continue to have to do, the diplexer issues,
the HORRIBLE program guide and most of all NO TIVO. But now that I
can't call and find out when my faulty LNB is going to be replaced
(waiting 3 weeks after initial tech call where STB was replaced)
I've realized Voom is not going to make it so I'm done wasting my
time. If they can't get recurring guide requests, the guide to
start where you stopped, customer service, installs etc under
control, there is NO WAY their DVR is going to work reliably within
the next year. I would cancel, but my calls aren't answered and my
emails/voicemails are not answered. I'm just going to stop paying
my bill and we'll see what happens. It's too bad, I really wanted
to like Voom.
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I've been thinking exactly the same thing about how a company that can't get an STB right is gonna come out with the greatest DVR ever. If you do decide to cancel, make sure you do it in writing. No use getting billed for three days of service just because Voom doesn't adequately staff its call centers.
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andrzej said:
haldol,
don't give up. You surely remember better days when you wrote this:

"WOW! This is amazing....

I'm not one to post, but after following here for the last month, calling for the new lease service, installation occurring seamlessly today (Boston) and spending the last 5 hours in utter amazement, I felt I should post my first impressions. In short, D* is gone in about 5 minutes. Regardless of any shortcomings, this service is well worth any amount of money. The picture, sound, features and service (Walt from Shrewsbury) are incredible. I might quit my job and stay home to watch TV all day.

Thanks to all for a months worth of anonymous info and advice."
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Clearly I WAS in love with Voom based on my previous post - I was most impressed when I spoke to the folks at Voom when I started running into problems. One of my biggest pet peeves with any company is one that oversells their product leaving everyone else in the dust. Working with the customer in times of need goes a long way. They are essentially shooting themselves in the foot and they have spent TONS of money getting installed into my house. Now that the ooh-and-aah of HDTV is gone, I'd like to get back to watching TV. I've also found that I NEVER watch ANY of the the Voom exclusives so the DirecTV Tivo makes more sense to me. Maybe a year from now I'll think differently but I honestly question whether Voom will be around should they not re-assess their approach to installation, product support, product development and most of all, customer service. Thanks to all for the other suggestions.
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haldol said:
The reason I have been willing to stick with Voom for the last 3
months was there was at least someone to talk to when bad stuff
happened. I've overlooked the PQ issues that continue to come and
go, the reboots that I continue to have to do, the diplexer issues,
the HORRIBLE program guide and most of all NO TIVO. But now that I
can't call and find out when my faulty LNB is going to be replaced
(waiting 3 weeks after initial tech call where STB was replaced)
I've realized Voom is not going to make it so I'm done wasting my
time. If they can't get recurring guide requests, the guide to
start where you stopped, customer service, installs etc under
control, there is NO WAY their DVR is going to work reliably within
the next year. I would cancel, but my calls aren't answered and my
emails/voicemails are not answered. I'm just going to stop paying
my bill and we'll see what happens. It's too bad, I really wanted
to like Voom.
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This is really a shame that Voom will lose a customer because of crappy CSR's.and the center.they should wake up to this soon,because there is so much potential for Voom..i would call Cablevision in long island NY
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Ready to jump off the bandwagon

Sorry for the crosspost but this belongs in here more than anywhere.

I have decided to pull the plug on Voom. I cannot get ABC or CBS and I cannot live without my TiVo. DirecTV may have big news in the next few weeks, but I miss them too.

Anyone been uninstalled? I am just curious how that will work. I was not a real fan of my newly installed "flyswatter" antenna ... neither was the wife.

I hate to dump them so early but it just does not work for me.

** NEW **
Well I called to cancel and Voom wants to send out another tech. I thold them they should save the money on the tech. I have reset the STB and have current software, etc. In all fairness, I wanted to let other members know that this is OTA and not really a shortcomming of Voom, I am 45+ miles from my local sources. I think with me it is just that I value watching TV on my schedule too much. DVR's are the best thing to happen to TV since it was invented .. better than HiDef even in my mind. So i plan to give Voom another shot WHEN they have thier DVR, I think that would make it perfect for me. Even without locals.
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Data Centers Faced a 2026 Ballot Measure Tsunami #shorts

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Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Wisconsin at Iowa, Saturday 10-31, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona St at BYU, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Alabama at LSU, Saturday 11-7, 12:30PM PST, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, UCLA at Minnesota, Saturday 11-7, 9AM PST, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Iowa at Northwestern, Saturday 11-7, 4:30PM PST, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Texas at LSU, Saturday 11-14, 4:30PM PST, Channel 148-03.
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Almost literally EVERYONE is wrong about the iPhone Duo

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OpenSSH's Wild *sshole Bug Explained!

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Where Former NASA Director Jim Green Would Like to Explore More Of

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Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Report on my iphone 18 PM
Working well with about 3-4 days battery life. New BT and Wifi range is much better than the 15 I had. It doesn't seem any faster but probably is. The Camera shooting video has amazing image stabilization.
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix. This happens about once a week since buying it.
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Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix.
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I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.
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I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.
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My wife hasn't complained about her 17Pro yet.
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Shhhh!
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To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.
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To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.
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The most annoying for me is when I'm trying to teach my robot to edit the mowing map and the touch screen quits and I have to reboot and start all over. As long as I reboot the phone the repeat will usually complete the map and it is saved.
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
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Ronnie- said:
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
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With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
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With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
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Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
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Ronnie- said:
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
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Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
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Of course ... but they Could.
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Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

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Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
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It was early. Sure.
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College Football Playoff, ESPN agree to 5-year, $1.7 billion deal expanding field to 24 teams starting in 2027

The CFP field will have 12 teams this year, before doubling in 2027.
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ESPN and the College Football Playoff (CFP) have agreed to a 5-year deal to expand the playoff from 12 to 24 teams.

The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment,(a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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Why the Tesla Cybertruck Was Killed Off

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Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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savarese04 said:
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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Chances are, they told you about how hard and long it would take for them to place that fiber to your area ... Poles needed to be placed and what not ...
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Jimbo said:
Chances are, they told you about how hard and long it would take for them to place that fiber to your area ... Poles needed to be placed and what not ...
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Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.
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Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.
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People that Own the poles ?
That would be ATT Or the Power Company depending on the situation ... easily figured out by looking at the Tag on All Poles.
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ncted said:
Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.
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Might not be an option, due to easements. I can't see governments allowing public property (easements) for exclusive use by just one company.

I $uppo$e there'$ a way….
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People that Own the poles ?
That would be ATT Or the Power Company depending on the situation ... easily figured out by looking at the Tag on All Poles.
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Sorry, Companies or whoever. Power company, cable company, competing phone companies, governments. AT&T sued Nashville a while back because of how pole attachment works there.
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ncted said:
Sorry, Companies or whoever. Power company, cable company, competing phone companies, governments. AT&T sued Nashville a while back because of how pole attachment works there.
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Really ?
The poles always have a tag on them showing who owns them, up here its either the Power Company or the Phone company ...

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Utility and telephone poles in Nashville, Tennessee are owned primarily by two entities: [1]
  • Nashville Electric Service (NES): Owns approximately 80% of the utility and telephone poles across its Davidson County service area.
    • AT&T: Owns the remaining 20% of the poles (roughly 104,000 poles). [1, 2, 3]
Other telecom and cable providers, such as Comcast or Google Fiber, do not typically own the physical poles; instead, they rent attachment space on NES- or AT&T-owned poles through pole-attachment agreements. [1, 2]
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In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
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