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A week ago i had dish network upgrade all my equipment to HD. I have a dish 1000 and a vip 622. For some reason i have a very weak signal coming from satellite 129. 110,119 are great! I can get a better siginal if change the transponder number, but when i close the screen the transponder number goes back to the weakest possible signal(39). All my HD channels are pixeling and i constantly get the searching for satellite signal error on the 129. Any suggestions?
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Bad Surprise from the 129 Bird: New Dish1000/VIP622/VIP211 Install

After my install of Dish1000/VIP622/VIP211 on Sat. Jan. 13th, I thought I was in "DBS Heaven" until Thurs. Jan. 18th when we experienced an extremely small snow shower which accumulated less than an inch of fine powder over a 12 hour period. This could never have bothered my old installation, but I experienced lots of breakup on my local SD channels and total destruction of reception on all those "bad" 129 transponders: 6, 11, 16, 22, 23, and 27. These transponders all have clear air signal levels of between 50 and 63. Since I live in a remote, heavily forested area my only Dish location is at lakeside on my boathouse, which then gives me a 140 foot run of RG6 to my receivers. My typical signal levels for the 119 bird average about 93-94, which appears to be about 10-15 points lower than a short run.
I have the Dish installer returning tomorrow and I'm wondering whether I should push for a 2-dish install update using a spare Dish500 aimed exactly at the 129 bird??
Would just re-aiming the Dish1000 towards the 129 bird help those 50-63 levels without degrading 110 & 119????
I'd appreciate any thoughts on this subject.

chasby
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...I have the Dish installer returning tomorrow and I'm wondering whether I should push for a 2-dish install update using a spare Dish500 aimed exactly at the 129 bird??
Would just re-aiming the Dish1000 towards the 129 bird help those 50-63 levels without degrading 110 & 119????...
It all depends on how optimal your current aim is for 110 & 119. In my case, re-aming to optimise 129 actually improved the signal on 110 & 119 to 100 or better :)

If I were you, I'd ask the installer to re-aim for 129 and then check 110 & 119. If the signal on 110 or 119 drops below 80-85, you can always ask for a second dish then.

Talon Dancer
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I put up a 30" Wineguard dish just to pick up 129 and my signals are in the 80s and 90s for 129. I did most of the work myself after Dish installed the Dish 1000 and the 129 signal was weak. I did a lot of reseach, buying a satellite finder meter helped a lot in finding 129.
Anole
129 solutions: light, medium, and heavy.

Original thread starter, and others having troubles with 129, you might get an education out of this thread and the ones it links to.

I put up a 30" Wineguard dish ...
... buying a satellite finder meter helped a lot in finding 129.
Good work! Take no $4!t .
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The right way to do it is to peak to the 119 assuming your pole is plumb and your skew is set properly. I originally tried to peak to 129 on advice from this and other fourms. Wrong! The instructions that came with my Dish 1000 say to peak to 119. By following the instructions I was able to get the best all around signal on all da birds. The problem with trying to peak to 129 is that damn bird doesn't stay put!

I can't remember which 119 transponder I peaked to, but it was one of the "home" transponders. I used the "home" tramsponder # that was suggested by doing a search on this fourm.

I get 45-55 on 129 transponder #1 which is fine because it is not a transponder that carries any channels I receive, but is high enough to keep from getting error messages. You should get around 80+ on 129 t.p. # 10,19, 30, 31. Most others are around 60 which is about as good as it gets with a Dish 1000.

I never have a problem except when it snows and sticks to the dish which just takes a quick sweep to fix. I assume snow is not an issue where you are.

P.S. I also used th DP Dual in the center 119 position by itself to peak the dish. Once that is done I put the LNBs back where they belong and voila! Of course a switch check is required at each stage.
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Well dish came out to re aim the dish on monday. Sorry i have not posted sooner. The tech said what everyone is saying here that the 129 is JUNK. The 129 does not stay in one spot and "wonders" Im happy with the results so far. Also my 110 and 119 are both in the mid 90's so also improved. So here are my new transponder numbers with the new aim. I will copy and paste the old numbers and post the new numbers with this post.

OLD NUMBERS (before re-aim)
1 32
2 32
4 51
5 52
6 32
7 48
8 49
9 56
10 55
11 48
12 49
13 56
16 46
17 53
18 31
19 61
21 49
22 32
23 49
27 47
30 56
31 63
32 0

NEW NUMBERS ( RE-aim)
1 51
2 56
4 64
5 60
6 53
7 52
8 61
9 61
10 77
11 53
12 61
13 62
16 62
17 60
18 52
19 77
21 60
22 55
23 53
27 52
30 80
31 79
32 61
Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Bruce
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
AZ.
AZ.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
Bruce
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Bobby
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
AZ.
AZ.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
TRG
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Bruce
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Jimbo
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Two MLB teams.
Jimbo
Two MLB teams.
Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
TRG
TRG
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
I thought you might like that. :biggrin
Jimbo
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
I guess they should figure that out ... maybe not offer as much if they can't afford it next time.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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Congratulations to the youngest Formula 1 World Champion, 20-year old Kimi Antonelli! The podium at the Mexican Grand Prix featured three World Champions with 4-time World Champion Max Verstappen, 7-time World Champion Lewis Hamilton, and newly-crowned World Champion Kimi Antonelli. A dozen World Championships represented!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Look Back - Boston
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Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
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Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
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(They Long To Be) Close To You -The Carpenters
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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
TRG
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
b4pjoe
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
At least for a couple more years
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
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Now live:
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It only took them 41 days to announce it
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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing
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