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DS0816
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Hello,

On one thread I wrote the following:

"I'm near Detroit. DirecTV has jobbed out installation to services with limited training. And the installers have tried their best. I've had one or two -- with DirecTV themselves -- tell me DirecTV isn't lately as good with transmission on 5-LNB. Naturally there's no one at DirecTV who'll admit to this.

I do get intermittent picture interruptions. It's not every day. And it's not easily predicted by me. Sometimes I wonder if DirecTV is trying to tweak something -- especially when I'm watching not on a SD receiver but an HD one. I don't know for certain.

I think DirecTV has a definite transmission problem related to newer technology. I hope this latest press release about coming HD channels and the 2007 launches of not one but two satellites spells improvement in programming transmission."


I received responses that point to installation. And I now believe that is specifically the problem. You see, I'm not the only one on this SatelliteGuys forum who has DirecTV HD. Last February, I upgraded from my original March 1998-installed Single LNB to a 5-LNB because of a new HDTV. There have been a few people who have also complained. But I see most, with a setup similar to mine as well, pretty much say that they don't these problems that I do.

On Feb. 7, 2006, the upgrade took place. After installer left, we took notice of problems. Intermittent picture problems. On DirecTV HD and SD channels. Resolutions seemed to happen, at first, but it became apparent HD was a problem. So an installer came out again. And again. Including original date of Feb. 7, there was an installer at my house four times within a month's period. Each time, it was to look at the numbers on signal strength. And half the time, there wasn't much of a problem while the installer was at my house.

I've noticed problems on SD channels pop up in the wee hours of the morning, be it the upper-200s, lower-300s, low-500s. But on HD it's most conspicuous. Following my MLB hometeam Detroit Tigers during 2006, I was jubilant when DirecTV added regional FSN game coverage on ch. 96 last summer. Guess what happened? During many games, the picture would get broken up, a search for a satellite signal would emerge, and then I would have to revert back to watching the Tigers in SD. (Note: I was subscribing to HD programming up till October; after that, I got rid of it and figured I'd settle for the no-extra-charge scant few HD offering of my Detroit locals, HBO HD, and TNT HD is still available to me.)

I could have made calls every month to DirecTV. But you know how it is going thru a phone system; and installers seemed to do what they could during those visits. I had one or two tell me that DirecTV is so new in the HD game, they have a transmission problem that even he, himself, puts up with (don't know why?). I figured it made sense. In December, just days before Christmas, an installer was out, and he observed the H20 receiver was defective. So arrangements were made for a replacement, which did take place, and I have a new H20 receiver.

Throughout all this time, I sit in front of the TV and half-expect picture breakups because I've actually become conditioned to expect this. My fellow resident advises me to dump DirecTV because this individual estimates that DirecTV isn't equipped, at least not yet, in transmission of HD -- and this individual figures we're not the only ones experiencing such a problem, and cannot fathom others putting up with it like we have. (Where could he be wrong? If everyone experiences the problems I have, DirecTV subscribers would be leaving in droves!) I mean, really, to see SD receivers that have, from time to time, go completely black (but with sound), and other times to just reset at inconvenient times (are there any convenient moments of a receiver making a popping sound, picture turning black, and receiver resetting?).

On Sunday, Jan. 21, 2007, during the 5 am/ET hour, I was watching on my HDTV The Suzy Orman Show on Ch. 355 (shown in SD, of course). What happened? More picture breakups, temporary freezing, normal motion, and intermittent troubles. I later flipped, at around 6 am/ET, to HD channels starting with HBO HD on Ch. 70. The picture was on momentarily but doing nothing but breaking up, and going black -- as well showing me a screen telling me about not subscribing to this channel (I'm an HBO sub), and instructing me to call ext. 721 (with info on receiver and card numbers). So I thought to myself, "Time to call DirecTV -- again!"

I called DirecTV. And, calmly, I explained the situation and stated that I am at a point in which I want this ongoing problem -- be it transmission from DirecTV's end…or installation that was never handled just right -- to come to an end. I'm tired of putting up with it all, and I want this upcoming visit to resolve the matter…once and for all.

DirecTV, followed by Tech, and now Rio-3, have each been put on notice by me. Rio-3, which doesn't have its offices open on Sundays but appointments are still made (from a rep in another office; this one is in one of the I-states) have set me up for Monday [Jan. 22, 2007]. And I have been advised to call Rio-3 early-Monday to insist it send its supervisor, its top guy, to come out and correct the problem.

DirecTV is a good company -- a great one, I think! Its programming slate is ahead of cable and rates the number-one reason why I've been subscribing since 1998. Add to that its other qualities. But, make no mistake, DirecTV is responsible for backing up its product. I made that call very calmly, and with respect to DirecTV, followed by its Tech rep, and lastly the Rio-3 representative. Dumping DirecTV is not what I'm really wanting to do; but if there are any more problems after this upcoming visit that relate to "ongoing" issues of the kind I've been experiencing for 11 months -- well, then, my eight- to nine-year relationship with DirecTV as a loyal customer will come to an end.

In numerous threads, over the past several months, I've described my experience. When I had the Single LNB from March 4, 1998-Feb. 6, 2006, there was never any installers coming out to my house (after than the original installation). Ever since Feb. 7, 2006, I've put up with way more than what any ordinary consumer would tolerate. In the meantime, I want to sincerely thank everyone who has ever responded to what I've explained because they've been very thoughtful, well-intentioned, and helpful.

I hope DirecTV doesn't lose me.
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If my local installer followed your cost estimates, my install would have cost around $650. Instead, I had to pay nothing extra.

If your installer was required to do free pole mounts, free wall fishes, and install free phone lines, AND was being a paid a flat rate, then I hope you tipped him well because he lost money on that deal. If he was paid hourly, then the company paid for it all, and great.
Those prices on the web site are for when an installation exceeds a standard installation. If an installer has to do several walls fishes, then they would usually charge less per wall fish.
DirecTV forces their corporate installers to provide free phone lines and free ground pole mounts. That is why the person who started this thread received a crappy install. That is why DTV has a HUGE shortage of installers. That is why I make good money on service calls when DTV customers have had it with DTV and their installer core. They do have many very good installers, IMO most are not.
NiFi
DirecTV forces their corporate installers to provide free phone lines and free ground pole mounts. That is why the person who started this thread received a crappy install. That is why DTV has a HUGE shortage of installers. That is why I make good money on service calls when DTV customers have had it with DTV and their installer core. They do have many very good installers, IMO most are not.


AMEN! :up
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If your installer was required to do free pole mounts, free wall fishes, and install free phone lines, AND was being a paid a flat rate, then I hope you tipped him well because he lost money on that deal. If he was paid hourly, then the company paid for it all, and great.
Those prices on the web site are for when an installation exceeds a standard installation. If an installer has to do several walls fishes, then they would usually charge less per wall fish.
DirecTV forces their corporate installers to provide free phone lines and free ground pole mounts. That is why the person who started this thread received a crappy install. That is why DTV has a HUGE shortage of installers. That is why I make good money on service calls when DTV customers have had it with DTV and their installer core. They do have many very good installers, IMO most are not.

How are you supposed to know if they are being paid a flat rate? I mean the guy doesn't walk in our house and say "I'm only getting paid X dollars to do this".
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How are you supposed to know if they are being paid a flat rate? I mean the guy doesn't walk in our house and say "I'm only getting paid X dollars to do this".

This is absolutely correct. I had no idea how much they were paid.

But even at that, I did not ask the installer to do any of this. I told him the dish could be mounted on an outbuilding and did not need a pole mount, but he said he always uses a pole. I told them to forget phone jacks and I would put them in, but he said he gets paid less if he leaves them out. I said to simply run the RG6 along the top of my fence, tying it with wire ties...he said he has to bury it. He did let me dig part of the trench.

There was no wall fishing. I have a large crawlspace under my old house and it was all done from there. My install was great and everything works perfectly.

I have worked at lesser-paying jobs and I sympathize with the installers. But the customer is not responsible for how the installers are paid. I don't blame Todd for what he is doing--he is fortunate if he can get paid these rates for work that some do for free.
wneilson82
Man, you all have got me worried again.

I am setting up my parents for D* and I must admit that their house will be a pain to install D* at
Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Nominal
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
dishdude
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take
Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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Little Bit Of Light - Strange Weather
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A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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dfergie
The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.