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soonerman
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A questions about switching from E*

I have gotten an offer from our local cable company, Cox Communications that will be hard to refuse regarding bundling. I really like E*, but money is money.

My question is this:

Once I have fulfilled the 18 month contract that I entered what is the procedure for canceling with E* if I choose.

Additionally, we had a family member who is an installer do our our install. If I cancel after I have fulfilled the contract, will he be penalized?

I know I will have to send back the receivers, but what about the dish itself or the switches or components? How difficult is cancelling? Will they try to give me a runaround or will they fulfill my wishes fairly easily.

Thanks for the info.
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soonerman said:
I have gotten an offer from our local cable company, Cox Communications that will be hard to refuse regarding bundling. I really like E*, but money is money.

My question is this:

Once I have fulfilled the 18 month contract that I entered what is the procedure for canceling with E* if I choose.

Additionally, we had a family member who is an installer do our our install. If I cancel after I have fulfilled the contract, will he be penalized?

I know I will have to send back the receivers, but what about the dish itself or the switches or components? How difficult is cancelling? Will they try to give me a runaround or will they fulfill my wishes fairly easily.

Thanks for the info.
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Hi!
I can't really answer your question, as I'm fairly new to Dish myself, but I noticed you say Cox is your cable provider. I know different parts of the country are different, but i thought I'd just say, you may want to check out the quality Cox has in the area as far as picture quality, if that matters to you at all. I was a long time cox customer and was satisified. That was until i saw the difference between satellite and cable...well...cable on Cox. I was blown away. I've left them and haven't looked back.

But as i said, it's jsut a matter of what's important to ya. So take that for what it's worth. :)
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soonerman said:
My question is this:

1. Once I have fulfilled the 18 month contract that I entered what is the procedure for canceling with E* if I choose.

2. If I cancel after I have fulfilled the contract, will he be penalized?

3. I know I will have to send back the receivers, but what about the dish itself or the switches or components? How difficult is cancelling? Will they try to give me a runaround or will they fulfill my wishes fairly easily.

Thanks for the info.
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1. No

2. No

3. All you are required to send back (*correct me if I'm wrong) is the LNB, and the receivers. Of course they won't want you to leave, they will want you to stay. If your just Hellbent on leaving, tell them you are moving out of the country and are not sure when you will return. That usually gets them to stop asking questions.
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I have found out that the offer required me to bundle all my services and gave me a significant discount for a whopping 3 months except for the phone which is for a year. I had to really push them to explain the pricing and once they did, I realized I would be paying significantly more for less when it comes to all my TV's.

After comparing the apples to apples I have quickly realized that Dish is much better priced for about the same thing. I like E* and how clear the signal is and am not going to switch to save a little bit for just three months.

I guess the old adage, "buyer beware" applies to the bundle discounts you are offered.

Thanks for the answers and I hope anyone else considering a swith from E* makes sure to do their homework before jumping ship and making a possible big mistake!
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I myself prefer E* as far as Satellite goes. However I don't own stock in the company so I tell people if they want to switch over to Directv or Cable go ahead, BUT, big BUT here. Always really check out the other provider that you are switching to. Do they have what you want. IF so how about PQ. Go to a neighbors house and look at it., etc, etc.

Bottom line whatever you have now and you want to switch, really weigh out the options and such before you switch yourself into a 18-24 month contract.
Don't get mad a switch over just because you got mad a someone on the phone that is paid minimun wage and who could care less about the company they work for. All places have poor or bad CSR's to an extent.
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soonerman said:
I have found out that the offer required me to bundle all my services and gave me a significant discount for a whopping 3 months except for the phone which is for a year. I had to really push them to explain the pricing and once they did, I realized I would be paying significantly more for less when it comes to all my TV's.

After comparing the apples to apples I have quickly realized that Dish is much better priced for about the same thing. I like E* and how clear the signal is and am not going to switch to save a little bit for just three months.

I guess the old adage, "buyer beware" applies to the bundle discounts you are offered.

Thanks for the answers and I hope anyone else considering a swith from E* makes sure to do their homework before jumping ship and making a possible big mistake!
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Glad you pushed them for the details. What you said about paying about the same for less on cable is why I left cable to begin with. For only just a LITTLE more on DirecTV and now Dish, I got a LOT more and a LOT better quality, signal, PQ...etc.
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How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Bruce said:
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
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Bruce said:
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Jimbo said:
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
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Two MLB teams.
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Bruce said:
Two MLB teams.
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Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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I thought you might like that. :biggrin
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Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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I guess they should figure that out ... maybe not offer as much if they can't afford it next time.
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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At least for a couple more years
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