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Last reply Jan 24, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Charlie and Technical Chat Highlights for 06

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Charlie and Technical Chat Highlights for 2006
*note some of the info is outdated...

DishHD

Added 5 more Voom Channels in addition to Espn2HD and UHD and we will carry a special Olympics Channel.

Also coming up later this year, second quarter, Home and Garden HD and Food Network HD

We plan to add 5-10 more during the year…

HBOHD and SHOHD ava with sub to their packages…
For additional channels you will need Mpeg4… Olympics will be ava free of charge to all Subscribers in HD…

DISHHD Channel Review
Discovery HD
TNTHD
HDNet
HDNet Movies
ESPNHD
ESPNHD2
UniversalHD
Dish PPV
VoomHD (15)

Voom Guest
Josh Sapan CEO, Rainbow Media explains the 15 channels that will be ava on Dish Network:
Animania
EquatorHD
Family Room
Film Fest
GamePlay
Gallery
HD News
Fu
Monsters
Rave
Rush
Treasure
Ultra
World Cinema
World sport

Local Networks HD
Los Angeles
Denver
Chicago
Atlanta
New York
Minneapolis
Launch by March 31st
Raleigh, NC (2 channels) (dish 1000+ required)
Pittsburg, Pa coming 12/14
Charlotte, NC coming early 2007

DishHD Local Markets

HD locals we added St. Louis and Detroit this Summer 47% of households.

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HD Launches

Starz HDTV
Channel: 9435
Available in:
DishHD Platinum or With a Starz Movie Pack Subscription and an MPEG-4/ViP Series Receiver

NFL NetworkHD
Channel: 9426
Available in:
. DishHD Bronze and Higher
Starting Thanksgiving: Live NFL Games Thursday & Saturday nights at 8:00PM
NFL Replay will select the best games of the week and edit to 90 minutes and show every week at 5:30PM and 8:30PM EST Tuesday & Wednesday.
NFL Game of the Week Friday Nights at 8:00 EST

HGTV HD
Channel: 9461
Available in:
.DishHD Bronze and Higher

NGTV HD
Channel:9429
Available in:
.DishHD Gold and Higher
Free Preview:

Our New HD package has 26 National HD Channels...
All the new channels added this year are MPEG4

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Dishnet has 164 local SD markets 97 % of markets

New / recent launches of SD Locals
Odessa / Midland Tx
Rochester, Mn
Beaumont-Port Arthur ,Tx (Abc not available)
Palm Springs, Ca.
Dothan, Al
Bangor Maine
Butte-Bozeman, Montana

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Regional Uplink Sites with Downlink

DISH NETWORK ENGINEERING "FIRSTS"

* First company to offer a satellite receiver for less than $200
* First to develop a UHF remote control
* First to offer an IRD for C-Band satellite TV
* First nationwide installation network dedicated solely to satellite TV systems
* First to offer satellite receiver with built-in digital video recording
* First satellite TV company to offer local channels to local markets in all 50 states
* First to offer an MPEG-4 multi-room HD and Dvr satellite receiver
* First pay-TV provider to offer a pre-paid televison platform, 'DishNOW!' - 12/31/05
* DISH player-Dvr 942, the first ever multi-room satellite TV HD DVFR 1/06)05
* DISH Network PRO 301-first in a new series of satellite television receivers
* World's first and only 500 channel satellite TV system - 7/19/99
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PocketDISH Updates:

Record link will link PocketDISH with a standard receiver such as a 311 or a 301 it will become a pvr device!
Hooks to RCA (composite) jacks… Settop box will control the PocketDISH…
PocketDISH currently works with the 942 or 622 Receivers via 2.0 USB (takes about 5 minutes to transfer an hour program)
Now it will work with the DISH Player-DVR522 and 625 via 1.0 USB

30 minutes to transfer an hour program)software will rollout to these receivers the first week of March…
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New Software features for 622, 625 and 942 and 522
Changed Dvr list sort options, moved Dvr date up and lets you swap between Alpha Numeric and Dvr numeric source.
Explaining how to hit the Dvr button twice to get to your recordings.
Added themes & Search function to all but the 622 ( already has) also lets you search by keyword. (next month or so)

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And now showing the available deals.

HD Bonus

DISH'n It Up: Upgrade to ViP 622 DVR

DISH'n It UP: Upgrade to ViP 211

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Charlie addresses the Distant networks
*There are 900,000 of you who get these.
*Distant Network channels are network channels (ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox) that originate from locations outside a consumer's hometown.
* We are in the process of taking them down before December 1st
*If the the court ruling goes into effect we will no longer be able to provide these distant networks.

Who is not affected
*171 Markets, over 96% of population.

Who is affected
*51 Unserved markets, where we don't do locals today.

Timeline of events
*Nov 1988- Echostar asks Court to confirm interpretation of law is accurate.
*April. 2003- Court finds Echostar's current practices meet requiremnts.. no shut-offs required.
*Oct. 20 2006- Court says stature leaves no choice but to shut off distant networks.
*Nov.13-16, 2006- Congress must hear from you.
*Dec. 1, 2006 Court requires all shut-offs must be completed.

Offer for Affected Customers
* In all local - into - local markets, consumers are offered local networks free of charge through December 31, 2006.
* Free satellite DISH upgrade where technically feasible.
* Free over-the-air antenna where technically feasible.

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New Dish Features
*Side by side Pip Mode 622 if you are in single mode and hit the pip button you can enlarge pip 3rd press will have side by side pip . With this new feature when you close pip window you will start your progam where you left off.
You can view 2 HD channels side by side with this feature.

* Now in your guide in the top left corner by the channel number we have marked HD to help you distingish HD programming from SD in the guide.

*New Timer uses original air date for its information.

Slingbox Video
*Guest: Blake Krikorian Co-founder and CEO of Slingbox
*Blake tells how the idea for Slingbox came about.

*How the Slingbox works: Take your receiver and hook the audio /video outs to the describes, hook up a ethernet cable and you can stream this video over IP to your laptop, desktop or even phone.
*Leslie Harper demonstrates a 622 hooked to a Slingbox pro box.

*Blake demonstrates how to get your laptop hooked to your Slingbox.

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Programming Remote with Lesile Harper, goto dish home.

Remote Help - dishhome

tech.dishnetwork.com
Addressing the Remote

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Special Topic: Distants Shut Off Friday December 1st

Welcome to the special edition Charlie Chat, there has been a lot of activity and we want to make sure you have the most current information for our customers.
If you are watching tonight it means you have lost one or more of your distant networks, the reason is that a Court order by a Judge in Florida goes into effect tonight, and by midnight tonite we will shut off all of our distant network channels which are:,ABC, NBC , CBS and FOX.
About 900,000 Customers are affected. 7%
Group A 300,000 Customers will lose channels from outside your city (time shifting capabilities)
Group B 300,000 or so 174 markets , do not sub to local channels, but they are available to you.
Group C 300,000 live in one of the 33 markets where neither DISH(no LIL's) network nor any other Pay TV provider offers local network channels,or are missing some channels... no simple solution...

OFFER FOR AFFECTED CUSTOMERS
* In all local-in local markets, consumers are offered local networks free of charge through December 31st , 2006

*Free Satellite dish upgrade where technically feasible

*Free Off-air antenna where technically feasible

* Another company not affiliated with DISH Network can provide Distant Networks to qualified customers

There is a new company that is not associated with DISH: All American Direct that starting tomorrow will be delivering to qualified customers Atlanta and San Francisco distant networks.

All American Direct
*C-Band dishes and satellite receivers for over 20 years
* Offers distant network channels from Atlanta or San Francisco to qualified DBS customers
*No Separate Equipment (for the most part)
*But* Broadcasters are challenging this

Contact All American Direct
www.mydistantnetworks.com
current info available for B or C customers here...

Another possibility DirecTV

Customers who were receiving these distant channels will not be billed anymore (credited for partial months etc)

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Off Air Tuners
Bob Howell From Wineguard
Chose the Right Antenna
. Detirmine frequencies
-Channels 2 – 13 are VHF
-Channels 14 – 69 are UHF
. Distance between broadcast towers = antenna beamwidth
. Detemine distance to the broadcast tower

Websites for Assitance
.www.antennaweb.org
-Antenna selection
.www.checkhd.com
=Local digital/HD programming
(goes into description of going to antennaweb…and hd.com)
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WildBlue CEO Ken Carroll and CTO' Erwin Hudson
WildBlue 2 way highspeed Internet Satellite service discussion

and

Showing coverage map

WildBlue Service Offerings

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ITV Update with Scott Higgins

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Links:
January Charlie Chat Recap
February Technical Chat Recap
February Retailer Chat Recap
10th Anniversery Charlie Chat
March Retailer Chat Recap
May Technical Chat Screen Caps
May Retailer Recap
June Charlie Chat Recap
July Retailer Chat Recap
August Technical Chat Recap
September Charlie Chat Recap

September Audio Clips
November Technical Chat Recap
November Audio Clips
Special Charlie Chat 12/1 (audio clips here also)
Related pdf's
December Charlie Chat

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Dirtydan

Jan 23, 2007

Has anybody seen the "Side by Side" pip yet?

dfergie

Jan 23, 2007

Dirtydan said:
Has anybody seen the "Side by Side" pip yet?

I tried it following the instructions, not yet on my 622...

MikeD-C05

Jan 23, 2007

Dirtydan said:
Has anybody seen the "Side by Side" pip yet?

Just saw it on my Mom and Dad's 625 dvr and it works very well. You could watch two different games and swap back and forth for audio. If you like sports that is.

dfergie

Jan 24, 2007

Replaced my Your Welcome! with Questions from the year in post 3....

JohnTomFerg

Jan 24, 2007

" E-mail Question - Kwi : I would like to know if E* is working on new technology to avoid losing signal when it rains hard.
A: You will see some fade, we do have some larger dishes for specific areas. Call us and one of our CSR's will walk you through these issues and if needed send a tech out to check alignment. "

Follow-up question, will the guy that comes out to check alignment arrive before the storm ends so that he sees the problem and doesn't just say "it appears to be working fine now, excuse we while I go back to my truck on this nice sunny day"

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 24 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

thehill.com

That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Yesterday at 5:36 AM

According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 8:00 AM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

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Bruce

Yesterday at 8:17 AM

Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

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AZ.

Yesterday at 8:25 AM

Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

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Bruce

Yesterday at 11:08 AM

AZ. said:
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:20 AM

Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 1:09 PM

Bobby said:
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

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TRG

Yesterday at 2:01 PM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish

Bruce

Yesterday at 2:14 PM

AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:12 PM

TRG said:
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees.

Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:13 PM

Bruce said:
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:14 PM

Bruce said:
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .

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Bruce

Yesterday at 7:30 PM

Jimbo said:
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?

Two MLB teams.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 7:35 PM

Bruce said:
Two MLB teams.

Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.

TRG

Yesterday at 8:53 PM

Jimbo said:
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...

I thought you might like that. :biggrin

Jimbo

24 minutes ago

Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

I guess they should figure that out ... maybe not offer as much if they can't afford it next time.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 5:24 PM · posted in The Sports Section

Auto Racing 2026

New thread or keep this one?

View: https://www.youtube.com/live/AgOI9DNCmPg?si=l-YcZmHl7GXXF8fX

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dfergie

Oct 9, 2026

Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…

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Yespage

Oct 16, 2026

Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.

dfergie said:
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…

HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.

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Yespage

Oct 30, 2026

NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.

Foxbat

Nov 2, 2026

Congratulations to the youngest Formula 1 World Champion, 20-year old Kimi Antonelli! The podium at the Mexican Grand Prix featured three World Champions with 4-time World Champion Max Verstappen, 7-time World Champion Lewis Hamilton, and newly-crowned World Champion Kimi Antonelli. A dozen World Championships represented!

https://youtube.com/post/UgkxnO1m73VHzLCyqFP8qgvzZMJyvwqtcc4d

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dfergie

Today at 5:24 PM

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 5:22 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Security Now 1104

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Direct YouTube Link - Security Now 1104
TWIT's Website
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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

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Domicile: Build a Linux Desktop with HTML, CSS & JavaScript #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 3:53 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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dishstaller

Today at 8:07 AM

Don't Look Back - Boston

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harshness

Today at 10:03 AM

Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins

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Bobby

Today at 10:58 AM

Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans

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sdfntx

Today at 11:50 AM

Closer to You - Brandi Carlile

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Today at 3:53 PM

(They Long To Be) Close To You -The Carpenters

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Linus Tech Tips

Today at 3:32 PM · posted in Linus Tech Tips

Noob POV Build with Linus from LTT

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!

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Jensen Huang, NVIDIA, and the Alleged Foreign Spy #shorts

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Redbullsnation

Today at 3:11 PM

Simping never works

Lon.TV

Last reply Today at 2:49 PM · posted in Lon.TV

Broadcasters To Encrypt Emergency Messages with DRM..

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Redbullsnation

Today at 12:06 PM

Well, ATSC 3 is a flop

TRG

Today at 2:43 PM

So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

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b4pjoe

Today at 2:49 PM

TRG said:
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

At least for a couple more years

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 2:22 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

MacBreak Weekly 1050

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