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Why go to Directv at this time

Why go to D at this time. The new HD package will not be out tell some time at the end of the year. The MLB extra innings will not go over to all Directv tell 2008, And the new DVR4mpg has big time troubles. So i am staying tell next year. The only reason for the move will be the MLB package at this time. And i am not moving tell next year.
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Poke
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Well 1st of all most of the channels that will be added my guess will be locals in HD. My guess is that Dish will to be the HD leader by the end of the year due to Direct will add some HD channels but so will Dish. Which means right now Dish has the most HD Channels in 34-30 depending on if you get your 4 locals in HD. Overall I think its funny how big numbers get thrown around when the facts show something different. :)
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Poke said:
Well 1st of all most of the channels that will be added my guess will be locals in HD. My guess is that Dish will to be the HD leader by the end of the year due to Direct will add some HD channels but so will Dish. Which means right now Dish has the most HD Channels in 34-30 depending on if you get your 4 locals in HD. Overall I think its funny how big numbers get thrown around when the facts show something different. :)
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Why do you continue with this same mantra "most of the D* channels added will be local HD's"? D* has made official announcments and has agreements with many new HD NATIONALS and is in the process of working out agreements with many other new NATIONAL HD channels. This has been confirmed by some of the channels themselves. They want to premier on D*. Do some research poke. AVS forums have lots of info on D*'s future HD additions. I hope for you E* subs that E* will also add some new HD's but they haven't made any sort of announcements for 2007 and instead seem to be in trouble with some of their current channels like HBO/Cinemax and Court TV. MLBEI seems to be gone for E* and headed for D* and it looks like the Big Ten channel is going with D*. Something is going on at E* and I don't exactly what it is! Maybe a sell out? Theirs been some minor talk of a possibility of a takeover being possible. It just doesn't seem like E* is pushing for improvement like they used to. :)
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Rad,
Who told you E11 is to be a spare ;0 Not the case ;0 E11 will replace E8. E8 will go elsewhere or be the spare ;0 Satt providers NEVER leave a new satellite doing nothing ;0 What a waste of cash would that be. Newer means stronger in all cases here ;0 Where E13 will go is the only mystery at this stage! Short of replacing E3, there arent many key slots for it to go. 129 will be Ciel 2. They already have E6 spare at 110.3 incase of a failure.

-B
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No reason to just up-convert. Cable will also have the capacity over the next year. Be it removing analog channels, moving to mpeg4, or digital switching.

As for adding more HD this year, Dish will probably just down rez everything to 1280x1080. Plenty of room to cram more channels in with mpeg4 1280x1080.
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Why do you continue with this same mantra "most of the D* channels added will be local HD's"? D* has made official announcments and has agreements with many new HD NATIONALS and is in the process of working out agreements with many other new NATIONAL HD channels. This has been confirmed by some of the channels themselves. They want to premier on D*. Do some research poke. AVS forums have lots of info on D*'s future HD additions. I hope for you E* subs that E* will also add some new HD's but they haven't made any sort of announcements for 2007 and instead seem to be in trouble with some of their current channels like HBO/Cinemax and Court TV. MLBEI seems to be gone for E* and headed for D* and it looks like the Big Ten channel is going with D*. Something is going on at E* and I don't exactly what it is! Maybe a sell out? Theirs been some minor talk of a possibility of a takeover being possible. It just doesn't seem like E* is pushing for improvement like they used to. :)
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1st most the channels I think will be locals. 2nd there not even 100 National HD Channels out there for anyone to offer. Yes I have done my research this is not rocket science. Dish has done the smart thing by not making any claims to things that have not happen yet. I don't think their will be a sell out if there would be one it might be with Direct and AT&T. So we will see who adds what channels in HD over the next month or so. My guess is yes Direct will add some more HD Channels by the end of the year. But my guess is that Direct HD Subscribers will not see 100 channels of HD. They will have their 4 locals and then whatever National Channels in HD Direct offers which the total probably wont be 100. It all comes down to what Networks get their HD Version of their channel up then what TV Providers decide to carry them. But for now it is out of Directs hand and Dish,Comcast or whoever. So we agree to disagree but the facts are still the facts and right now Dish offers more HD Channels to me than what Direct can offer. Could that change maybe but right now I see Direct adding more but in that same process Dish will do the same. Either way Satellite TV Service is by far better than cable. But we will see by this fall what Direct and Dish will add as far as HD. Overall more HD is always a good thing. :)
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Why go to D at this time. The new HD package will not be out tell some time at the end of the year. The MLB extra innings will not go over to all Directv tell 2008, And the new DVR4mpg has big time troubles. So i am staying tell next year. The only reason for the move will be the MLB package at this time. And i am not moving tell next year.
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For me the answer is quite simple. No HD locals and no plans for HD locals in the Reno, NV DMA. Don't know who decided that Reno should be my locals 'cause I live in CA, but that's the way it is. Next option is to "move" to Sacramento but E* doesn't have Fox in HD and NASCAR is on Fox.

Regarding the DVR, I think it took about 8 months for the major bugs to be fixed on the 622. Now it is an awesome machine and we hardly hear of any complaints. I suspect it will be the same story for the HR20.

If E* merely announced plans for Reno I would stay. There is not even that.
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Rad,
Who told you E11 is to be a spare ;0 Not the case ;0 E11 will replace E8. E8 will go elsewhere or be the spare ;0 Satt providers NEVER leave a new satellite doing nothing ;0 What a waste of cash would that be. Newer means stronger in all cases here ;0 Where E13 will go is the only mystery at this stage! Short of replacing E3, there arent many key slots for it to go. 129 will be Ciel 2. They already have E6 spare at 110.3 incase of a failure.

-B
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Sorry, I just saw some other thread where folks said E11 would be a in orbit spare.

That still doesn't address the question I put to Poke as to where E* has extra capacity to add 40 new HD channels. He keeps saying that E* will match whatever D* does for national HD channels but doesn't say how they will do this. If they did, why haven't the put up some of the other national HD channels that are out there now?
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I am not sure what E* is going to do, I have to assume they will be adding more HD. Though I wonder as they have had a lot of distractions recently. They seem to be fighting with everyone. I have had E* for 8 years and have been relatively happy with them up unto this past year. This past year has brought me problems with customer support - it is hard to understand them, lousy installation of new Dish for HD, incorrect billing and now a $10 increase on my programming package. I started looking more closely at cable and D*. With the latest announcment about MLB EI being exclusive to D*, I just signed up with D*. They are coming out Saturday to install. I will miss some things about E*, but I just couldn't give up MLB.

I hope E* resolves their issues with HBO or they will be losing more customers. They really need to stop yanking channels from their line up. I rarely ever watch Court TV, but there are people who watched it extensively. I hope this next year E* will focus more on keeping customers happy.

If it weren't for MLB, I would probably have downgraded my package to make up for the price increase and stuck with E* a little longer.
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Bruce
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How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
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Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
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Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
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True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
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Two MLB teams.
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Two MLB teams.
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Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
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Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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I thought you might like that. :biggrin
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But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
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I guess they should figure that out ... maybe not offer as much if they can't afford it next time.
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Auto Racing 2026

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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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Congratulations to the youngest Formula 1 World Champion, 20-year old Kimi Antonelli! The podium at the Mexican Grand Prix featured three World Champions with 4-time World Champion Max Verstappen, 7-time World Champion Lewis Hamilton, and newly-crowned World Champion Kimi Antonelli. A dozen World Championships represented!
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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At least for a couple more years
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FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
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It only took them 41 days to announce it
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