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1080iBeVuMin
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How does VOOM look on DISH now??

How is the PQ these days of the VOOM channels on Dish??

Hey, you old timers may remember me from the old VOOM DBS forum. I haven't been on here in ages. I also have not subscribed to ANY service since VOOM DBS shut down in 2005.

When DISH took over VOOM broadcasting there were lots of complaints here about bad PQ. I would like to know if it is up to the standard of the old VOOM DBS?? Or perhaps even better by now??

If not, I am still holding out for IPTV or whatever else comes along... I loved the old VOOM DBS with no commercials and all that great HD.

So please fill me in !!

Many thanks. :p
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rickaren, thanks for your reply about VOOM "getting better" on Dish. Perhaps you (or others) could clarify if VOOM is actually up to par with the old VOOM DBS, or perhaps even better.... or not.

And what about "new equipment in testing"? Where can I find out about that?

I still have a lonely old disconnected VOOM dish clinging to my rooftop! If I get another dish installed, I will want to stay with that. I know IPTV is coming at some point -- might not be long.

I would like to hear from a few more folks. If I see a consensus that VOOM looks as good or better on DISH as it did on the old VOOM DBS, then we will finally take the plunge...

Many thanks!
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fredbenz
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Remember when Voom came out and there was all those hot chicks at CES in rainbow colored clothing forcing Voom flyers upon people. i took like a hundred. Voom! its all about you!
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navychop
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1080iBeVuMin said:
I still have a lonely old disconnected VOOM dish clinging to my rooftop! If I get another dish installed, I will want to stay with that.

That dish should be pointing at 61.5 & you can use it for Dish HD off that satellite. Might need a new LNB though.

I know IPTV is coming at some point -- might not be long.

Yes, in about 2 weeks from Dish via DishOnline, or now from ITVN/XTV.
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Waiting for things to get better will just deprive you of your HD enjoyment. There's always something better around the corner. For those few people that can get Fios, that's probably the best PQ available. But their DVR is lacking, big time.
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1080iBeVuMin
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Guys, thanks for all the replies. :bow Great points all around. Really helpful.

So, navychop, you think a E* installer would point my existing VOOM dish to 61.5 and use that?

I don't know. I was so impressed (spoiled) with VOOM DBS. That was the first satellite service I ever had. All that great HD PQ and no commercials. I would enjoy the VOOM channels on E* alright, but I think I would slightly resent the factors that are worse on E*-- crummy SD, reduced PQ on VOOM HD channels.

Then again, I would finally get my DVR (VOOM DBS promised but never delivered).

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If you haven't moved your Voom dish, it is already pointed at 61.5. This is where the old Voom satellite, Rainbow 1, is located. It is now called Echostar XII. Dish also has another satellite at the same location. This is where most Dish HD is sent from. Those that can't get a LOS to 61.5 can use 129.

I certainly don't consider E*'s SD to be crummy. And it's better to have pretty darned good HD than hold out for perfect HD, which may never come.
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NavyChop Said:

navychop said:
If you haven't moved your Voom dish, it is already pointed at 61.5. This is where the old Voom satellite, Rainbow 1, is located. It is now called Echostar XII. Dish also has another satellite at the same location. This is where most Dish HD is sent from. Those that can't get a LOS to 61.5 can use 129.

I certainly don't consider E*'s SD to be crummy. And it's better to have pretty darned good HD than hold out for perfect HD, which may never come.
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You are partly correct in saying that Dish SD is not "Crummy", at least compared to most non-digital cable. But SD on the original Voom DBS was awesome. I have not seen Verizon's FiOS, but I've heard good things about their SD picture quality.
I remember when I first became a Dish customer in the Mid-90's and had a "Dish 300" the picture quality was also great(only SD channels back then)and may have been as good as the old Voom.......except my television was not as good in those days. I don't worry about SD picture quality anymore, eventually, most SD channels will be replaced with HD versions with up-converted SD programming.
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NEED SUGGESTIONS FOR NEW FTA BOX

IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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techristian said:
IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

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Updates on Artemis III?

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


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Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
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MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
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Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
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harshness said:
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
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I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.
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That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.
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osu1991 said:
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
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Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?
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Defective Modem?
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It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

9to5mac.com

Apple confirms iPhone 18 Pro Max AT&T cellular issues, affected devices require hardware replacement - 9to5Mac

Apple has confirmed an issue causing a “small number” of iPhone 18 Pro Max devices on AT&T to lose cellular...
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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter
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And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
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savarese04 said:
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
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dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
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Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
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Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
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I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
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AI Infrastructure Hijacked: Attackers Turned Company AI Against It #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


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Direct YouTube Link - AI Infrastructure Hijacked: Attackers Turned Company AI Against It #shorts
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Scott Greczkowski
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Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Take Me Alive - Steely Dan
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dishstaller
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You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Jimbo said:
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
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We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
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Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
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Jimbo said:
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.
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You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
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harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
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Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.
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Jimbo said:
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
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Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
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Jimbo said:
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
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What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
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TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)
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Jimbo said:
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
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I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
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Jimbo said:
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.
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They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
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Jimbo said:
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
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22g per serving.
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Bobby said:
22g per serving.
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How much is a serving?
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Juan said:
How much is a serving?
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2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
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Juan said:
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy
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They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
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Jimbo said:
They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...
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I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli
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Juan said:
I apologize...I was thought you were talking about a supermarket deli
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Well, it is a Super market deli, just not a MAJOR one .
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Bobby said:
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
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Awwww. You missed your chance to say "22 grams."
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Jimbo said:
don't think theres sodium in it
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According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
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According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
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I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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We're less than 4 weeks away from Voyager 1 reaching a distance of one light day from Earth

I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.


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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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Foxbat said:
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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Thanks for that info. I will mark it on my calendar! 🤣
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Will the Jupiter 2 make it in time ....
Stay tuned ...
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