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Becket

Last reply Feb 21, 2007 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

HD Locals Disappeared

Hi all.

I got the new 5LNB dish and HD DVR (the new one, not the TiVo) installed last Friday. When the tech left, all HD locals were working.

I don't watch a lot of live TV, and hadn't checked the HD locals since then, though I did have a few series set to record from broadcast.

Today, when I went to all the HD locals, there was no picture, just a message "Searching for Satellite In 1 (771)" I checked the programs that I had set to record and there was nothing there, either.

Everything else (HD package, SD locals, Total choice channels, etc.) is working fine.

I called D* to figure out what was going on, and they had me repeat setup. The setup procedure showed a failure for satellite 99b.

The D* had no idea what else to do and decided to send a tech out next week.

Any idea why my locals would just disappear like that? Or why 99b wouldn't get a signal? Any help appreciated to avoid having to wait at home for hours for a tech next week.

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Becket

Feb 18, 2007

Thanks. I just went outside and felt along the outside cable. There is a slight indentation - from the tooth of my dog, no doubt - is this the kind of thing that could affect the ability of the receiver to pull HD locals (but have no effect on anything else)? I don't even know if it happened recently (the tooth mark, that is).

plnoldrick

Feb 18, 2007

Becket said:
Thanks. I just went outside and felt along the outside cable. There is a slight indentation - from the tooth of my dog, no doubt - is this the kind of thing that could affect the ability of the receiver to pull HD locals (but have no effect on anything else)? I don't even know if it happened recently (the tooth mark, that is).

in all honesty a small indentation is probably not gonna do it but its always possible. i would look at any and all connectors and f barrels in the line the whole way back to the switch. if they are sunk or corroded or moisture is present etc any of those can do it.

if your multiswitch is outside any of those things can do it and also add in a bad port as a possibility.

did you try swapping the 2 sat feeds (flip flopping) or checking your strengths on both tuners? i would start with that as a way to help isolate a problem.

i almost never figure lnb failures because i almost never see them. most techs are way to quik to start replacing lnb's. they are possible but from what i see day to day they arent that frequent.

Becket

Feb 19, 2007

Well, it's fixed now - though it revealed a shoddy installation job.

I ran completely new RG6 directly from the satellite to the receiver to see what happened - still nothing: no HD locals, no signal on 99b, almost no signal (I discovered) on the 5th sat, either. So, I started looking at the dish itself. The elevation was off by 4 degrees. Fixing that brought in a strong signal on the 5th sat, but still nothing on 99b. So, I tried moving the azimuth (just guessing, since I have no compass or anything), and *poof*, I got a strong signal on 99b, too. So, I put the old cables back in place, and everything works fine.

It's possible that a recent storm changed the dish, but it had loose bolts. Worse (I should take a picture of this), the work attaching the mast assembly to my deck is completely shoddy. One of the three bolts attaching it to the deck is properly flush; a second is drilled in at a jaunty 45 degree angle and not completely screwed in, and a third is not as bad, but not true either. Also, the installer stuffed bark mulch in between the assembly and my deck to stabilize it (that's going to last....).

I can understand if he had problems in the install, but I would have preferred him to tell me (I know, I should have inspected...it never would have occurred to me to look at the bolts attaching it to the deck, and I was on a work call when he had to leave....lesson learned). This same guy didn't bring a drill with him, asked to borrow mine, and then was annoyed when the battery on mine died.

Ah well. At least it's fixed for now and I can pay my electrician (who also handles satellite TV) to do a proper job.

plnoldrick

Feb 19, 2007

Becket said:
Well, it's fixed now - though it revealed a shoddy installation job.

I ran completely new RG6 directly from the satellite to the receiver to see what happened - still nothing: no HD locals, no signal on 99b, almost no signal (I discovered) on the 5th sat, either. So, I started looking at the dish itself. The elevation was off by 4 degrees. Fixing that brought in a strong signal on the 5th sat, but still nothing on 99b. So, I tried moving the azimuth (just guessing, since I have no compass or anything), and *poof*, I got a strong signal on 99b, too. So, I put the old cables back in place, and everything works fine.

It's possible that a recent storm changed the dish, but it had loose bolts. Worse (I should take a picture of this), the work attaching the mast assembly to my deck is completely shoddy. One of the three bolts attaching it to the deck is properly flush; a second is drilled in at a jaunty 45 degree angle and not completely screwed in, and a third is not as bad, but not true either. Also, the installer stuffed bark mulch in between the assembly and my deck to stabilize it (that's going to last....).

I can understand if he had problems in the install, but I would have preferred him to tell me (I know, I should have inspected...it never would have occurred to me to look at the bolts attaching it to the deck, and I was on a work call when he had to leave....lesson learned). This same guy didn't bring a drill with him, asked to borrow mine, and then was annoyed when the battery on mine died.

Ah well. At least it's fixed for now and I can pay my electrician (who also handles satellite TV) to do a proper job.

thats bizzare it wasnt effecting anything else besides hd locals. deffinatly not my first guess thats for sure.

cableman2

Feb 20, 2007

the installer might not of dithered the dish correctly.....i am a qc field manger and see this all the time and this will cause issues like he is experiencing

Jimbo

Feb 21, 2007

Becket,
Did you run a signal test to make sure your other sats are seeing a solid signal, now that the 99 and 103 are strong ?
I would also check it a few days later to assure that it is still close to the numbers you have currently.

Jimbo

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TVHabit

Last reply 34 minutes ago · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Hybrid Dish setup

Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...

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Brct203

Oct 13, 2026

would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow

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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.

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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...

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Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
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To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit

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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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Yesterday at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 4:07 PM

jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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Almighty1 said:
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Yesterday at 1:30 PM

I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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Yesterday at 3:54 PM

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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