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Last reply Sep 11, 2011 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Cable Splitter in Dish TV connection

Hello,

I am using Dish. I have already given connection to two TVs and now I want to connect the third TV. I do not want to get a new receiver or additional service. I want to know if it is legal to use a cable splitter. Other than a) getting same channels between primary and split connection and b) losing the quality of signals is there any other risk that I should be concerned about.

I would really appreciate if someone can give some advice.

Thanks

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TG2

Sep 10, 2011

The receiver that you're connected to ... what model? .. can get you some menu commands (if not the 922) to get you directly into the right screen to change some settings.

One setting sets up the coax output on DVR's to be "Distribution Mode" so that the receiver puts out more power to compensate for losses along the splitter line.

As to one better than the other ... did you re-scan for channels? Also you can simply reverse which feed goes to the good set ... with the other.. that is if TV2 (good picture) is on output 1 .. move it to output 2, move the bad tv from output 2, to output 1 ... if TV2 is still good ... then the splitter may not be the cause, and either cable from split to the other tv or the other tv needs re-tune, etc..

jimdwest

Sep 10, 2011

722.

jimdwest

Sep 10, 2011

poor signal

Sorry to say, once again, not sure what you mean. I don't know about "output "1 & 2". All I have is a coax that comes inside the room from the actual dish. I don't actually have any cables coming direct from the 722 receiver which is downstairs. The Dish Network installation used a lot of old DirecTV wiring and connections, and I think they may have wired it differently than if a new install. It took them two tries, two installers and two days to get it working. I'll try running the coax direct to the "new" tv tonight and see how that goes. Ran a channel scan when tv was first installed, and it only found channel 62 on TV setting.

scoobyxj

Sep 11, 2011

Just to inform you the feed for the TV 2 does not come from the dish it comes from the receiver and is either diaplexed back into the same feed the dish signal is on, or has a separate line, but regardless that's not important in this situation. You mentioned you have a new HD TV for your third TV. You need to realize the TV 2 output is not a HD signal, and will never look great on a HD TV like it will with a SD TV. Trouble shooting your issue is simple. You have the TV 2 feed in the bed room where you're trying to split it ti run a third TV. You say the original looks just as good as it did before but the new one is very poor. There are two ways to check the splitter and coax you've run to the new TV. Obviously you need to insure the TV 2 feed from the receiver is connected to the "IN" port on the splitter (some splitters function very poorly when not connected properly), and the TVs are connected to the "OUT" ports. First you can just swap the coax on the output ports to see if the problem follows the swap or stays on the same TV. If the problem follows the swap then the splitter is the issue. If it continues on the same TV then look over the new coax for a staple through the line, and at the ends to insure there are no pieces of the braid touching the center conductor. You can also try a temp run of coax to the new TV to see if the run coax is compromised. If all the coax checks out then the problem lies in the TV itself, and will need replaced. One thing you can try before replacing the TV is to change the channel the receiver modulate the TV 2 output to. More importantly cable vs air. You will need to rescan your TV's to look for the new channel on the respected signal band you use.

TG2

Sep 11, 2011

Below is a picture example of what is being talked about.

The basics ... a *diplexer* looks like a splitter .. but in fact it is not ... it is designed to pass satellite frequences and TV-VHF/UHF over the same wire.

when ever you have a "diplexer" installation .. you will have TWO diplexers... One of them will be closer to the Dish Antenna ... the other will be closer to the receiver.

Adding a little confusion ... is that at the receiver (722k) you *will* see a splitter AND a diplexer ... this splitter allows you to have *one* cable come from the satellite dish and feed *both* Satellite IN's on the back.

In the diagram below, you are not looking at the back of a 722k .... but the concept is similar.

the Green Line is would be connected to the "Home Distribution" coax output ... The reason its called home distribution, is because it not only puts out the video for TV2 .... but *also* can put out the video for TV1 The way you see these two different channels, is by turning the TV's channel from say 60 to 62 ... these "broadcast" channels can be changed inside the 722 receiver. (the 722k is "broadcasting" or 'sending out' the signals for the one or two channels that you will see and set-up in menu-6-1-5 which I've documented further below)

As you see in the diagram, the light blue lines at the receiver.. come from a splitter.. this is the satellite side of the Diplexer ... goes into the red line (the main cable from the dish antenna) and then somewhere else on that line, is where the second diplexer is ... from the TV side of the second Diplexer ... you have a branch that currently feeds your second TV .. its *that* line (represented by the dark blue lines) that you want to add a splitter to, to allow you to get the 3rd TV up and running.

Menuing commands...

From TV 1 ....

Menu - 6 - 1 - 5
(Menu - 6 "System Setup" - 1 "Installation" - 5 "Modulator Setup")

First.. set the *MODE* for both TV1 and TV2 out to be the same.

If TV2 is already set for Cable, set TV1 for "Cable".
.
Make note of the channels. This is where you set which channel is being "broadcast" on the Coax cable that you will split to your 2nd & 3rd TV's tuners.

example: If TV1 out is on 60, and TV2 out is 62 ... then at your 2nd TV, after hitting "done" and before changing any cable connections.. you should be able to scan for channels.. and should be able to get both 60 and 62 (again what ever your screen says in this menu, are the channels you will be using at TV2 and later at TV3 when hooked up, and this may be different on *your* 722k, but I'm referencing 60/62 here) ... going to TV2 and tuning to the channel numbers you saw/set in Menu-6-1-5, you will find that "60" is the same as TV1/Tuner1 ... "62" would be TV2/Tuner2.

Note when coming out of this menu you will be asked if you are connecting directly to the TV ... you want to be in distribution mode ... this sends a little more power onto the line because each time you split it, it will drop the amount of power each split leg receives. (new splitters usually show this as -3.5 at each of the "out" ports on a splitter).
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Once you have both TV1 and TV2 appearing on your 2nd TV, by changing the 2nd TV's tuner/station ... *then* insert your splitter in TV2's cable line .. but *before* the line reaches back to the diplexer

Again, this is the *dark blue* lines you see from the TV's in the diagram, going to the "Coax Splitter".. the "input" of the splitter is what goes to the Diplexer

I hope that diagram clears up what you *logically* should have.

I say "logically" because as you admitted .. you had techs there..and it took them 2 days of fumbling with reusing the inhouse cable to make the connections work...

the only difference in that diagram ... is that what you want to do is shown with the Dark Blue lines.. a splitter connected to the TV LEG of the Diplexer, so you can put two TV's out.

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nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed

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nelson61 said:
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If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/echostar-loses-182k-wireless-customers-q3

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Today at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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Last reply Today at 10:06 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?

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dishstaller

Tuesday at 9:42 PM

I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

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MorCowbell

Yesterday at 10:11 AM

Methinks you are wrong, Dishstaller - at least for what I see now..
I so wish that functionality was available ...

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n0qcu

Yesterday at 10:41 AM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:11 AM

n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.

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MorCowbell

Today at 10:06 AM

You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."

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Tuesday at 4:27 PM

Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

HipKat said:
Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 12:14 PM

Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

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Yespage

Yesterday at 1:31 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

He wants to be Brady

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:14 PM

meStevo said:
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans

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gms49ers

Today at 10:02 AM

The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.