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I just bought and successfully installed a ViewSat 7000 PVR from Gosatellite.com. It was one of their kits with Winegard DS2076, Digipower SG-2100 motor, and Invacom quad LNBF.

Everything works and I'm hitting satellites from east to west (yes, it took 3 days but I learned a lot in the process). Only problem is that the signal meter on the receiver is completely screwy. After wasting a day trying to understand it (I'm new to FTA), I went and bought a hand-held meter and was able to get everything pointed in a couple hours.

When you go to the installation antenna setup menu on the receiver, select a satellite, and then attempt to adjust the dish using the motor menu, Q stays at 0 and S also (!) goes to zero after a few seconds EVEN IF YOU'RE POINTED DIRECTLY AT THE SATELLITE.

I've messed with the LNB settings in the menus until I'm blue in the face (including calling gosatellite and using their settings). I know I'm pointed correctly because my handheld meter is screaming AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, if I do a blind scan, the receiver retrieves all of the channels and I can watch the retrieved channels. Also, during the blind scan, the receiver shows a Q meter which works correctly.

So, I think I'm wired up right...it just seems like the software on the ViewSat that shows the meter is screwy. I updated firmware. No help.

What's particularly odd is that when you first go to the antena setup menu, if you are pointing at a satellite, the name of the satellite will appear for a couple seconds and the Q meter will jump up high, but then both the name and Q just disappear.

I've put in a call to ViewSatUsa support, but it sounds like I'm leaving a message for some guy in his garage. Not too promising.

I'm connected from LNB L + C separately into switch ports 1 and 2 connected to motor connected to receiver.

Anyone have any ideas? Or a 7000 with a working meter? Going on my roof to find satellites isn't a winning proposition.

Thanks
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I'm using the EchoStar satellites as my test satellite for no particular reason. They're far apart, and I have existing fixed satellites pointing at them, so I can guess where they are. After I had these, I figured it would be easy to nail the rest...ah, not so lucky.

Firmware is 0.17 dated September 06. I'm getting it from viewsatusa.com They seem to be just a little distributor. Not sure if there's a better place for updates.

I was just surprised that Gosatellite would sell a kit with a ViewSat and a motor if everyone here immediately jumps in and says that ViewSat doesn't work well with motors.

To check voltages, I put a paper clip in the 'tip' hole, positive volmeter probe touching the paper clip, negative voltmeter probe grounded. You can watch it switch from 18 to 13 depending on polarity.
SatinKzo
Well, maybe viewsats are changing their ways and taking time now to put quality into the motor controls of the receiver. The viewsat motor issue is more than I can explain, I don't know from personal experience, but everyone I have ever seen with a viewsat and a motor in the past has had issues with the motor behaving irradically. Like I said, maybe they fixed that problem with the newer models.

Glad you had a multimeter laying around to check voltages. I just found it odd they had you check it yourself. no big deal.

As for the firmware, that's the latest offical bin that I see. If the receiver keeps flaking out and freezing up, you might want to take that up with gosatellite while you are still in the grace period of the purchase.
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I was just surprised that Gosatellite would sell a kit with a ViewSat and a motor if everyone here immediately jumps in and says that ViewSat doesn't work well with motors.

the older viewsats have had issues with a motor. It will work fine for a little while then start to lose satellite positions and not stop at the correct satellite. I havent worked with a 7000 yet so I cant comment on that, but the older models did have that issue.
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So I guess getting back to the task at hand are you not getting any satellites? or just Dish ones right now? DBS satellites are much stronger than KU so it is possible you arent getting those.

I guess the first question I'll ask is where are you located? Want to make sure the motor/dish settings are right

motor latitude should be the same as your latitude. There should be a latitude scale on the motor and match it up (as an example, I'm at 45N so the latitude is set to 45) and dont change it.

You would want to aim at the satellite that is at the same longitude as you. This is the true south satellite.

I would hook the receiver up to the "L" side of the LNB and not use any switches right now. They can complicate things. Once you know what satellite is your true south, then bring it up on the menu and make sure the LNB info is right. The Invacom QPH (quad) is 10750 standard LNB. So make sure that is set properly.
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I actually can get all (pretty much) of the satellites from horizon to horizon (including L and C). The issue is that the process of doing so is god awful inconvenient.

The tech support at viewsat usa is, well, interesting. It seems to be one guy, and it felt like I was getting transferred to his cell. He was nice. His first effort was to try to get me to say I'd shorted the thing out by plugging in the LNB with the receiver on. Kind of funny...he said, 'well if you took it on the roof, then you'd probably do this at some point which would short it out'. The funny part is that he was convinced that something I would almost certainly have done would have destroyed the device...made me wonder about the engineering of the box.

He asked if I had a voltmeter around and then, judging by the fact that I had one on-hand, figured I wouldn't have any problem shoving paper clips into pin holes on the device. I didn't, so we got along great, but he got another call and had to go (?)

Anyway, long story short, I currently have a silly way to find satellites without climbing on the roof. It works, but it's painful. For anyone who stumbles across this thread with the same problem:

I start with a satellite I have. Add a new satellite "User Sat 1" in the Channel Scan menu. Go to the install menu and antenna setup and set the LNB (everyone has told me to use Universal, so I do that with high and low spanning from around 10000 to the highest value). Set the Diseqc 1 setting to the Diseqc port on your switch where you have L connected. Go to the motor menu with the red button on the remote.

Now the fun part. Move the satellite east or west for about 3-5 seconds. Save the new position (important to do this now, because the damn receiver crashes sometimes when you save the channels) Then do a blind scan. If you don't see any quality after 4 or 5 minutes, you're probably not on a satellite, cancel the scan. But most of the time you're hitting something, so let it go just until you have half a dozen channels.

Save these results. Exit back to the main menu and go to "Edit Channels". Find the channel # of one of the channels you just added. Exit the menus and switch to this channel. This is very important because we need to be on a channel from our current satellite. You'll see why in a second.

Now, we have to figure out what satellite we're pointing at and peak it. Here's the game: when you go into the antenna setup menu, the Q meter and the name of the satellite will show for about 2 seconds before disappearing for no particular reason. You may have to do this multiple times to get a Q reading. When you exit the menu, if you're on a channel from another satellite, the dish will move and you're screwed, hence the need to start on a channel from the satellite you're working on.

Figure out the Q reading, go back to the motor menu for the satellite. Do a 'fine move' and tweak the satellite 5 clicks to the east. SAVE THE POSITION. Exit back to the channel and then enter the setup again, get your 2 second Q reading, check if it's better or worse. Repeat this sequence moving a couple notches east each time and remembering how far you moved. If you go too far or you see the Q declining, go back west using the same process, saving each time. Repeat until you've peaked or shot yourself.

Now, go back to 'Edit Channels', remove all the channels which you added for this satellite before and do a blind scan. If the receiver crashes when you save, power cycle. Your channels have been saved. One satellite down...dozens to go.
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I start with a satellite I have. Add a new satellite "User Sat 1" in the Channel Scan menu. Go to the install menu and antenna setup and set the LNB (everyone has told me to use Universal, so I do that with high and low spanning from around 10000 to the highest value).

The Invacom quad is a standard LNB, not a universal. LNB LO (low & high) should both be 10750
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
NYDutch
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
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But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
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RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


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This video was put up shortly after I was able to take my family out to Yosemite in 2011. No AI.


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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


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harshness
When you need a battery, you need a battery.

If you can wait, new technologies are on the not-too-distant horizon.

You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
dishstaller
You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
Jimbo
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

My last AGM (using now) I got from O Rielly's, its the Super Start ... I got the Platnium, they had several to choose from.
T
He sounds like he's trying to sell me a pocket hose.

I just had to replace a car battery this week and thought I'd look into LiFePo4. Amazon has plenty of them, but all have top posts and only one 'also' has side connections (Group 75).Then I read that they're really lousy in the cold. So, an AGM, but again, almost nothing with side terminals instead of top. In researching that, I read that most mfrs in recent years have dropped side terminals and gone back to the old top posts, which is surprising to me since those are more corrosion-prone, cause the battery to need more space and are generally more hazardous. Finally I just threw up my hands and bought a regular lead-acid at Sam's Club. They had a Group 75 "Duracell" with side terminals only. It was virtually the only such battery with side posts on their shelves
arlo
Had a Die Hard in my folks cellar for over 6 years. Pulled it out, slapped it on a charger for a day. Put it in my 'Cuda and drove it around for a week of my vacation. Next year, the same. But my dad kept it topped off for me.It was a mid 80's battery in early 1990.

Flooded acid batteries like a float voltage of around 13.5-13.8 voltage.
AGM needs a float of 14.2 volts. So if you slap an AGM in where a flooded was. It never gets a full charge.
"Why do they die so fast?" Question answered. There are folks who sell voltage regulators for alternators that are designed to boost float voltage for AGM batteries.
The other way around? Flooded will gas-off a little at 14.2 volts. But seems to tolerate it pretty good.

Lithium car/bike/atv batteries. After 3 batteries in my Harley. The OEM flooded and two AGM's (before the 14.2 volt float requirement to let them live was learned). I bought a lithium for it. 4 year, no gripe warranty after having it tested by an approved store.
The thing started like Thor himself sent a bolt from the sky. Except......try to start it around freezing? Nope. Needed a heating pad.
And I usually like to park it around events in the evening with the parking light on. Looks cool like that.
We could traipse around for a few hours no worries. Hop on, fire it up, and go putt around.
Lithium? A Dakota Lithium at least. The BMS shuts it right down if it discharges below <something>.
Come back. Parking lights off. Won't start. And you know the rest. But it lasted 6 years. A lot better than 'new every two'. And the fact that powersports batteries are warranted for six, maybe nine months. Ludicrous.

I called Noco. Asked all of the right questions. Great warranty. Save some bucks ordering directly, faster service that the wally world alternative.
They addressed (or claimed over the phone) that the shut down was addressed. Sure. The BMS keeps it form being damaged. But if it is shut down because it does become low. Shut down any load (key on, parking or headlights left on) for 10-15 minutes and you get a second try to start your rig. Not a bad thing if it really works. Right?!

Exide, Interstate? Be very afraid. They ain't what they used to be. In Florida my '70 Cutlass had an Interstate (early 90') that lasted 6 years until it dropped its plates at an intersection and boiled over. In Florida, mind you. The last Interstate.....done in 2. Guys down there would suck out the acid and put water in shortly before the warranty ran out. Make it to the auto parts, get them tested. And get a new one pro rated. No more pro rating.
You can't beat an Odyssey. Napa, AC Deco (the better ones). Yup.
The mom and pop Car Quest only sells Die Hard. For a reason, the old man says. So they convinced that a Die HArd Platinum was the hot ticket for me. l will see. Stand by!

You can't cut Mr. Project Farm down. He does great tests of all sorts of things. Not sponsored and pressured to slap a little sugar on his comparisons and reviews. Compared to the Brits and Aussies with their constant overzealous and same sounding (Dave from EEVblog) rant. I like P-Farm a lot. Of course I like AvE (Boltr) too.
Reminds me to beware when wearing shorts around the garage vice.


Opinions may vary.
harshness
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.
The days of the 84-month warranty appear long gone, regardless of brand or where you acquired it. Warranties tend to be shorter, with much greater dependence on quick prorating.

The big problem for lead-acid batteries (whether flooded or AGM) is that the US no longer produces lead (the last smelter closed in 2013) and must import it.

Recycling covers a good chunk of the need (~70%), but it isn't free.
EarDemon
I've always got regular OEM Ford Motorcraft batteries from the dealership and have never really had an issue. On my old Lincoln Aviator (the SUV from the early 00s, not the CUV of today), I had some phantom drain and went though a few batteries, but that was an anomaly and with the standard warranty I got free replacements. Taking the Aviator out of the picture, I've bought two batteries in my 24 years of driving. One battery replacement in my Mountaineer, one in my Navigator. But I probably would have had another one had I kept it around longer. Didn't have the Bronco long enough, and so far still on the factory battery for my Expedition.

I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner. I'm in Buffalo, 90 degree summers and 0 degree winters. Once in a while in the dead of winter I'll get an alert from the Ford app saying remote features have been disabled to conserve battery, but it starts right up.
dishstaller
I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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College Football Playoff bracket, schedule, scores, rankings ...

The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]

Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]
    • First Round: Alabama defeated Oklahoma (34–24), Miami (Fla.) beat Texas A&M (10–3), Ole Miss topped Tulane (41–10), and Oregon defeated James Madison (51–34) at higher-seeded campus sites.
    • Quarterfinals: Miami (Fla.) upset Ohio State (24–14), Oregon shut out Texas Tech (23–0), top-ranked Indiana rolled past Alabama (38–3), and Ole Miss edged Georgia (39–34) across the New Year's Six bowls.
    • Semifinals: Miami (Fla.) advanced past Ole Miss (31–27) in the Peach Bowl, while Indiana dominant-defeated Oregon (56–22) in the Fiesta Bowl.
    • National Championship: Indiana secured the title with a 27–21 victory over Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium. [1, 2, 3, 4]
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And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
Jimbo
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
I think they are actually discussing the Top 8 get a Bye this time, if they go to 24.
Then again, I heard something about Play in games for the 16-24 teams ...

Nothing is official yet, so lots of moving parts ...

Can't wait, lets do 24, 3 years later they will want 32 :sick
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And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Jimbo
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Once the 24 gets here, there won't be anymore Conference Championships .... or so they say.

Oh what the hell, we really don't need Conferences anymore either ...:coco:(
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Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...
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Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...
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