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I was thinking of switching to fios, but.....
I have 3 kids, each w/ TV's & VCR's in their bedrooms, + a Living Room (HD) & My Bedroom , also w/ vcr's. 5 TV's Total, 4 VCR's total.
CableVision is connected directly without a settop box, to kids TV's, & they get up to about ch 70 or so with the TV's & the VCR's built-in tuner... This gives Broadcast networks, Disney , Bravo, ESPN, cartoon network, Nik, Sci Fi, TLC, VH-1, USA & others ...
Just my Living Room & My Bedroom TV are "Boxed" (living room HD)...
But, even on those sets I also have cable run directly into my S-VHS VCR's first , so I can record the above channels while watching another with the box ...
I was told by someone that I would need a Fios box for every set & VCR, making the box rental fees alone crazy ...
Even if I just need boxes for only the other 3 TV's, the box rental fees alone would end up making Fios's "better deal" a worse one, & the prospect of not being able to record 1 channel while watching another (my main use for my VCR's) is not appealing either ...
Any thoughts??
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I was thinking of switching to fios, but.....
I have 3 kids, each w/ TV's & VCR's in their bedrooms, + a Living Room (HD) & My Bedroom , also w/ vcr's. 5 TV's Total, 4 VCR's total.
CableVision is connected directly without a settop box, to kids TV's, & they get up to about ch 70 or so with the TV's & the VCR's built-in tuner... This gives Broadcast networks, Disney , Bravo, ESPN, cartoon network, Nik, Sci Fi, TLC, VH-1, USA & others ...
Just my Living Room & My Bedroom TV are "Boxed" (living room HD)...
But, even on those sets I also have cable run directly into my S-VHS VCR's first , so I can record the above channels while watching another with the box ...
I was told by someone that I would need a Fios box for every set & VCR, making the box rental fees alone crazy ...
Even if I just need boxes for only the other 3 TV's, the box rental fees alone would end up making Fios's "better deal" a worse one, & the prospect of not being able to record 1 channel while watching another (my main use for my VCR's) is not appealing either ...
Any thoughts??


You can pick up some channels, usually locals and anything below about channel 45 without a box but the quality is not very good.

Coupe of things though. You want to throw away those VCR's and get the PVR from Fios. It WILL allow you to watch one chanel while recording another. Once you use it you will never go back to the VCR again.

Rental of the standard boxes is only about 3.00 per month so it wont break you and I believe that the first one or two comes with the service. The HD PVR is 12.50 per month and worth every penny.

My setup is as follows: 2 HD PVR's and 2 STandard STB's. I previously had 1 Multi-room and 1 standard STBs from Dish. I currently pay about 20.00 less per month than I did with Dish and have one more set running. I also had Comcast and even though I could watch a lot of standard channels throughout the house things like movies and such were only available with an STB. I had the same arrangement as with Dish and Fios is over 30.00 per month cheaper.

So, to summarize, you get more HD, better picture quality, and MUCH BETTER CUSTOMER SUPPORT for less money. I have never come right out and called anyone stupid for not switching but I have to seriously imply it (no, not an employee and no relation to anyone who works there). Hope this helps.:hatsoff:
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You can pick up some channels, usually locals and anything below about channel 45 without a box but the quality is not very good.

Coupe of things though. You want to throw away those VCR's and get the PVR from Fios. It WILL allow you to watch one chanel while recording another. Once you use it you will never go back to the VCR again.

Rental of the standard boxes is only about 3.00 per month so it wont break you and I believe that the first one or two comes with the service. The HD PVR is 12.50 per month and worth every penny.

My setup is as follows: 2 HD PVR's and 2 STandard STB's. I previously had 1 Multi-room and 1 standard STBs from Dish. I currently pay about 20.00 less per month than I did with Dish and have one more set running. I also had Comcast and even though I could watch a lot of standard channels throughout the house things like movies and such were only available with an STB. I had the same arrangement as with Dish and Fios is over 30.00 per month cheaper.

So, to summarize, you get more HD, better picture quality, and MUCH BETTER CUSTOMER SUPPORT for less money. I have never come right out and called anyone stupid for not switching but I have to seriously imply it (no, not an employee and no relation to anyone who works there). Hope this helps.:hatsoff:

Thanks ...
I decided to call Fios & get the info on prices directly...
For one thing, no settop boxes are included, they are $4.99 ea standard, more ea for HD or DVR boxes.
I currently pay , after taxes, about $80 to Cablevision TV, plus $35 to FiosInternet & about $22-25 for my basic landline. for a total of about $140 for all/mnth.
Fios offers me a "Triple play" which, including the nessessary STB's & 1 multiRoom DVR & a similar movie pkg will be about $160/mnth for roughly the same level of TV service + Internet & phone.
Fios's plusses are that I will be upgrading my internet to 15/5 from 10/2, taking my basic landline to unlim local/LD, & will be able to record HD with the DVR.
The only real "negatives" are that I really wasn't looking to spend More money to "still have" existing fone, TV & internet service. The fone & internet "upgrades" don't matter, since We never use the landline for other than a few local calls, & the 10/2 internet is fine too.

All that being said, I will probably bite the bullet & switch to Fios soon ...

*** I also noticed that MSNBC & MoJo (INHD) are not listed in the Fios lineup....
Is that really true , what's up with that?? ???
hbk409
Thanks ...
I decided to call Fios & get the info on prices directly...
For one thing, no settop boxes are included, they are $4.99 ea standard, more ea for HD or DVR boxes.
I currently pay , after taxes, about $80 to Cablevision TV, plus $35 to FiosInternet & about $22-25 for my basic landline. for a total of about $140 for all/mnth.
Fios offers me a "Triple play" which, including the nessessary STB's & 1 multiRoom DVR & a similar movie pkg will be about $160/mnth for roughly the same level of TV service + Internet & phone.
Fios's plusses are that I will be upgrading my internet to 15/5 from 10/2, taking my basic landline to unlim local/LD, & will be able to record HD with the DVR.
The only real "negatives" are that I really wasn't looking to spend More money to "still have" existing fone, TV & internet service. The fone & internet "upgrades" don't matter, since We never use the landline for other than a few local calls, & the 10/2 internet is fine too.

All that being said, I will probably bite the bullet & switch to Fios soon ...

*** I also noticed that MSNBC & MoJo (INHD) are not listed in the Fios lineup....
Is that really true , what's up with that?? ???

if you have the stardard optimum online your speed is 15/2.
Z
if you have the stardard optimum online your speed is 15/2.
No I am well aware I have 10/2, which was upgraded from the 5/2 when it was initially offered in my area.
I called back, & it turns out that it is cheaper to Not take their "triple play, & leave my Fios internet at it's current 10/2, & I'll save about $12 or so vs. the pkg deal for the same level of TV service. ( about $149 for ph/Intnet/TV vs. $161/triple play)
1 SD Settop box is "free" only when you don't take the triple deal.
(BTW, this time when I called I was told taking the triple play would upgrade my internet to 20 from 10/2, they said 15/2 is not offered in my area, only 10 & 20!)
Also , a double check of Fios channel lineup for Northern NJ shows that it does Not have MSNBC on the lineup.
hbk409
Sorry, I do apologize when I intially read it I thought you had Optimum Online which would have been a 15/2 connection.
Z
OK.. I decided to switch over to Fios .. It will be installed this Monday.
I went for the HBO TV package, without their triple play, & kept my Fios internet/phone as is.
I'll be paying about $10/mnth more total than my current bills for all 3, but for that extra $10 ..:

A) - I'll have a multi-room, multimedia DVR, & a STB on all 5 sets, vs my current cablevision setup of No DVR, & only 2 of 5 sets with digital STB 's

B) - My new month old Panasonic 50" HD TX50PX60U will have more HD channels to choose from :)

C) - More basic channels to choose from too.

D) - Will Have HBO "On Demand" in this deal also.

E) - Picture quality should be better from what I'm told.

F) - I'll be licking only 1 stamp now.

The only channels I may miss a little are possibly MSNBC, & "MoJo" (INHD).. In few weeks I have had HD, I can say that MoJo's PicQual seems the best of the HD's channels on cablevision's system, & I have caught a few interesting shows, including a Free new 1/2 hr Howard Stern show in HD, a couple of times a week & some HD LV Poker I like to watch .. ..
The other "cable only" channels, CN8 & N12NJ, I could care less about & would trade them in a heartbeat for the 15 or so new basic cable channels I'll be getting (Boomerang, BBC America, Style, ect..)...
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Verizon's 10/2 is faster than Cablevision's 15/2. Even though on paper it's faster, I never got more than 8 or 9 Mbs from Optonline. When Verizon says 10, you get 10.

Zerkon, in case you didn't know, the multi-room DVR cannot transmit HD recorded quality shows to other setup boxes. If watching HD recorded shows on another room is important, then you may want to consider getting 2 DVR boxes.
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Verizon's 10/2 is faster than Cablevision's 15/2. Even though on paper it's faster, I never got more than 8 or 9 Mbs from Optonline. When Verizon says 10, you get 10.

Zerkon, in case you didn't know, the multi-room DVR cannot transmit HD recorded quality shows to other setup boxes. If watching HD recorded shows on another room is important, then you may want to consider getting 2 DVR boxes.

Yes, I was aware of the DVR, I only have the 1 HD set right now.
I was also aware of the VZW speed being better, I had Optonline when it was "theoretically 10/1" & never saw more than 6 on a good day, & it would fluctuate all over depending on day & time usually averaged between 1 & 3 ...
I then signed up for 5/2 Fios internet to save a few bucks, & it was rock solid speed at all times 4950/1790 or so at all times. They have since free boosted it to 10/2 & I get between 8 - 9.6/1.7/1.8.. ....

I ASSume the Fios box is smart enough to "Auto stretch" 4:3 channels as the cablevision box is w/ HDMI ...can anyone verify this, & does it simply stretch, or is it a "Just" type mode ??
I also wonder why they have My local (NNJ), CW11 HD on 801 instead of 811, & PBS 13 on 803, leaving 811/813 unused , that seems odd & should be corrected...
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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To Know Him Is To Love Him - The Teddy Bears
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Really Wanna Know You - Gary Wright
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Don't WANNA KNOW-Maroon 5
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I Want to Know What Love Is - Foreigner
Bobby
Oh What A Night For Dancing - Barry White
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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osu1991
Was just out running errands and saw $3.69 at most places
dfergie
$4.04 most places, Diesel $5.85...
Bobby
Regular$5.459​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Billboard along I-10 had reg at $3.81 and diesel at $5.54
Bobby
Regular$5.399​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
K
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https://www.directv.com/insider/mysports-changes-the-game/
https://streamtv.directv.com/mysports/ (You might have to logout or open a private window to see the details)
As of now this is only available for streaming customers in select markets. Existing streaming customers can switch to it for $69.99, but they are not eligible for the $20 off for 3 months discount. More genre-specific packages will launch during the first half of the year.


At launch, MySports includes 40 sports and broadcast channels and is initially available in 24 metro areas, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco Bay Area, and others. Click here for more information and the list of initial launch markets. The availability of MySports will expand into additional markets as DIRECTV adds more local stations to the package.

The streamlined MySports package includes national and local channels in select markets, as well as live news channels.

National sports channels immediately available through MySports include ACC Network, Big Ten Network, DIRECTV 4K Live, DIRECTV 4K Live 2, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, Golf Channel, MLB Network, NBA TV, NFL Network, NHL Network, SEC Network, TBS, TNT, TruTV and USA Network. Local channels will initially include any stations owned and operated by ABC, FOX, and NBC, with additional stations coming online soon.

Additional networks, local stations and ESPN+, will be included in MySports at no extra cost in the near future.

Consumers who sign up online for the contract-free package before Feb. 28, 2025, can receive MySports for $49.99 monthly for the first three months, a $20 monthly savings. After the free trial, it auto-renews monthly, and consumers can cancel anytime.
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K
They recently split the news channels off of MySports, so CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC and MSNOW are no longer part of it.

MySports was decreased to $64.99, and a new "MySports+MyNews Duo" pack is $79.99, which will also give you Bloomberg, CNBC World, CNNI, the C-SPANs, i24 and Newsmax.

Tennis Channel also joined MySports at some point over the past year.
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They recently split the news channels off of MySports, so CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC and MSNOW are no longer part of it.

MySports was decreased to $64.99, and a new "MySports+MyNews Duo" pack is $79.99, which will also give you Bloomberg, CNBC World, CNNI, the C-SPANs, i24 and Newsmax.

Tennis Channel also joined MySports at some point over the past year.
AMC+ now included in MyEntertainment Pack. I guess we know why the $8 price increase.
K
Here's the Insider article. Shudder is now part of MyCinema and Fanatiz1 was added to the Spanish packages last Friday. PX Sports was also added a few weeks ago.

It's not just AMC+ driving the price increases on the genre packs, the rest of the AMC Networks (AMC, WE, IFC, Sundance, BBC America), along with Paramount/CBS, Hallmark, Weigel and others joined since they debuted last year.
K
MySports now has some CW affiliates, and MyNews now has some CW affiliates and the MyNetworkTV O&Os.

At quick check, it looks like the CBS and Sinclair owned CW affiliates are missing.
C
MySports now has some CW affiliates, and MyNews now has some CW affiliates and the MyNetworkTV O&Os.

At quick check, it looks like the CBS and Sinclair owned CW affiliates are missing.
No Hearst owned CW in Orlando
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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osu1991

The Cybertruck was supposed to make the F-150 obsolete. It wasn't supposed to be boring, like a Ford or a Chevy. It was supposed to be "more truck than truck." It turns out, people just wanted trucks that were trucks, and CEO Elon Musk announced on X earlier this morning is that the Cybertruck is dying.


Ending production in middle of next year at gigatexas for cybercab production.
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IF they had made the cyber truck more like a conventional truck, more would have bought it. There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
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There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
As it is, most consumers buy trucks as comfortable transportation rather than commercial utility. The Cybertruck approach to that goal was way out in left field. It turned out to be more of an austere sedan with awful daily-driver attributes (visibility, parking). The expectations regarding truck durability were dashed early on.
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Does anyone here use Apple Home/HomeKit with HomePods or Apple TV to automate smart devices in their house? We have had Amazon's Alexa set up in our house for the last 10+ years and I have been waiting to switch them out to Apple for a few reasons; We are already in the Apple ecosystem with our phones, tablets, and computers. I have never liked Amazon's stance on privacy and I really like that Apple has pushed for privacy for a long time.

I bought 4 of the new HomePod Mini 2 speakers to go in various rooms in our house and we have one of the new Apple TVs on preorder that will be the start of me replacing our Rokus. I have the HomePod Mini 2s set up and have an RPi that is running HomeBridge for our legacy smart devices that worked natively with Alexa but don't work with Apple Home natively. I had trouble with the older smart bulbs not keeping the brightness or light color consistent with what our routines were with Alexa despite trying every setting in HomeBridge with the bulbs just not shining very bright. I ended up replacing them with updated versions that are Matter compatible so they work in Apple Home natively. That in and of itself has been interesting to set up because I have my home network segretated with the IoT devices on their own vlan and wifi and pretty locked down. Matter requires IPv6 and due to how my home network is designed I had to do some digging with AI to figure out how to make it all work correctly.

Apple Home definitely has some shortcomings that Alexa does much better with but I am hoping Apple will continue to improve their Home products and introduce features that will bring it closer to the functionality of Alexa.
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b4pjoe
I tried HomeKit to be able to see my Ring cameras on my Apple TV as they are not supported natively on Apple devices. The best I could get was to be able to view the cameras live but I could not view any recordings. After the last major update version of HomeKit I could not even view the live cameras anymore. I gave up on it after that. If I were going to do it again I would only buy devices that can work on Apple devices natively as HomeKit didn't work well at all for me.
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I tried HomeKit to be able to see my Ring cameras on my Apple TV as they are not supported natively on Apple devices. The best I could get was to be able to view the cameras live but I could not view any recordings. After the last major update version of HomeKit I could not even view the live cameras anymore. I gave up on it after that. If I were going to do it again I would only buy devices that can work on Apple devices natively as HomeKit didn't work well at all for me.
That's what I started doing after seeing legacy devices work hit or miss using the HomeBridge. At least Apple is following a standard now with Matter which is unusual for Apple. Looks like HomeBridge does allow you to see the live views but I haven't seen how to view past recordings. I'd really like to ditch Ring altogether due to their stance on privacy and if I had my choice I'd go with UniFi since that's what I use for my network and I like the idea of my camera recordings being all local and not in the cloud. UniFi doorbells and cameras are quite pricey though.

I'll try to access the Ring doorbells in Apple Home for now but I'll see if it's useful any.
Foxbat
I found that the IoT devices need to see the Apple TV to be able to use it as the HomeKit Hub. Unfortunately, that means being in the same IPv4 subnet.

I was thinking of getting a HomePod Mini for my Mother-in-Law to play music and set up HomeKit scenes, as well as make FaceTime Audio calls. When Apple announced their price rises due to RAMageddon, I kicked myself as they went up 50% in cost. I'll be curious to see the HomeView in person as this might not be a bad way to get her started on automation.

She asked about it because her friends have Alexa and they use it to control lights. But like you, I feel better putting in a HomePod or HomeView that's listening for commands instead of Amazon or Google.
b4pjoe
That's what I started doing after seeing legacy devices work hit or miss using the HomeBridge.
Homebridge is what I meant when I said HomeKit. Forgot the name of it.
harshness
I find that I don't interact with my home automation system (Hubitat Elevation) as much as I thought I would.

Apple made everything more expensive and less flexible with its "our way or the highway" approach. To be sure, a Homebridge server addresses some of the major deficiencies, but it seems like it will always be a battle to keep pasting things together.
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Neutron
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
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Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
Lol, I'm watching an Apple Tv ON my TCL Roku tv set... I use it as a client for my Channels DVR.
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TRG
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.
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I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.
harshness
I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.
Until I can get a mortgage on an ATV, I doubt that's going to happen for me.

As much as the price has gone up, the complaints on the forums about this, that, and the other nits surrounding various limitations and Apple business decisions seem to be keeping pace.
Jimbo
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.
I have the Roku's, 2 or 3, I just rarely use them ... I prefer the Google/Android Sony set up.

People tell me that the Apps on the TV will end thier usefulness as they age ... They are doing ok for me so far ... I also have the TV take the App Updates whenever possible ... then again, I don't know how often App updates come to it.

So, so far, I'm doing ok, but if they start to get sluggish, I'll eventually change to a Roku ... I don't want to, but eventually ... (Or buy another new TV :eeek:shh:clapping:biggrin
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
Foxbat
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
Foxbat
Well, Munro and Associates are now a go-to for mobile device teardowns! Who knew? They have an idea what may be causing the iPhone Duo's inside folding screen to fail 40% up from the bottom:
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samsung made the screen apple designed the hinge for the duo. this has got to be the best advertising campaign for samsung :biggrin :clapping :oops:
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