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Last reply Jun 4, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

NatGeo not standard with HD Pack

I understand why they do it, and I would have the at250 anyways, but I think its pretty crappy of them.

Dish charges more for their HDpack than anyone I can think of, natgeohd should be part of it.

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Yes616

Jun 3, 2007

I just hope when Dish adds stuff like The Weather Channel in HD they don't bump that channel up to the AT-250 package.

We already do pay extra for HD so to get NGEO in HD and we must subscribe to AT-250 to me sounds like double dipping.

$20 bucks a month ain't just chump change.

JAG72

Jun 3, 2007

As there are more HD channels out there I bet you won't have a HD package anymore. You will have a HD enabling fee and then you will get whatever channels are in your current package. In reality that is what you have today. The HD enabling fee is the $20 charge and the voom channels are part of the lowest package.

briani

Jun 3, 2007

JAG72 said:
As there are more HD channels out there I bet you won't have a HD package anymore. You will have a HD enabling fee and then you will get whatever channels are in your current package. In reality that is what you have today. The HD enabling fee is the $20 charge and the voom channels are part of the lowest package.

I agree, but I don't really think that Voom should be in the lowest tier. People who currently sub to AT100 would currently get ESPN-HD 1&2, A&E HD, HGTV-HD, FOOD-HD, NFL-HD and TNT-HD. They would also get HD locals/RSN if they qualified, and any of the HD premiums they sub to(HBO, SHO, Starz, & MAX). I would pay $7.00 a month for an HD enabling fee for these channels. AT200 would add Discovery HD, HDNET & HDNET Movies,and Universal- HD and would have $10.00 enabling fee. AT250 would add National Geo & Voom for the current $20.00 fee.

And hopefully, offer the Voom channels as an option for AT100 & AT200 for $9.99

JAG72

Jun 3, 2007

briani said:
I agree, but I don't really think that Voom should be in the lowest tier. People who currently sub to AT100 would currently get ESPN-HD 1&2, A&E HD, HGTV-HD, FOOD-HD, and TNT-HD. They would also get HD locals/RSN if they qualified, and any of the HD premiums they sub to(HBO, SHO, Starz, & MAX). I would pay $7.00 a month for an HD enabling fee for these channels. AT200 would add Discovery HD, HDNET & HDNET Movies, Universal HD and would have $10.00 enabling fee. AT250 would add National Geo & Voom for the current $20.00 fee.

That is one way to do it. What I would like to see is them only allow you to receive the HD version of the HD receivers and remove the SD from those systems. This could make the costs even less because currently the providers want a fee for their SD and HD channel being offered. You get rid of the SD version on your account you should not have to pay any extra for the HD feed. Then you could create a $7 to $10 fee for all the HD channels that don't have a SD version.

kstuart

Jun 3, 2007

Yes616 said:
I just hope when Dish adds stuff like The Weather Channel in HD they don't bump that channel up to the AT-250 package.

We already do pay extra for HD so to get NGEO in HD and we must subscribe to AT-250 to me sounds like double dipping.

$20 bucks a month ain't just chump change.

You have to subscribe to the SD channel in order to get the HD channel.

You have to subscribe to the HBO SD package in order to get HBO-HD.

National Geographic SD is in AT250, so you have to have AT250, in order to get National Geographic HD.

Weather Channel SD has always been in the most basic package of every provider, because everyone wants to have it, and in some areas, weather information is pretty important. So, you can't exclude it from any subscriber, they'll go elsewhere.

E* is almost finished implementing "Locals on the 8's" support in all its receivers for The Weather Channel, generally they have always had a good relationship with them, and I expect to see The Weather Channel HD in DishHD this fall - which should be one of the better HD channels with lots of live HD feeds.

sullivbt

Jun 4, 2007

Falsehood?

Several posters on this thread have stated that "you have to have the SD channel to get the comparable HD channel". but I believe that is incorrect. Is it not technically possible to JUST subscribe to the HD package? Of course you will get hit with a boatload of fees, but I think that it is technically possible.

JohnL

Jun 4, 2007

sullivbt said:
Several posters on this thread have stated that "you have to have the SD channel to get the comparable HD channel". but I believe that is incorrect. Is it not technically possible to JUST subscribe to the HD package? Of course you will get hit with a boatload of fees, but I think that it is technically possible.

Ssullivbt,

Technically almost anything is possible, but Cable, DBS service or any service for that matter is NOT about what is technically possible. All products or services are about what is marketable.

With that said Dish does NOT allow you to subscribe to just an HD service package. You could purchase an HD receiver and not subscribe to any basic package and pay the HD enabling fee to get all the OTA channels available in your area, albeit without ANY guide Data.

John

JohnEL

Jun 4, 2007

Other Falsehoods

To those who say that you have to subscribe to the SD chanel to receive the HD channel I say that is not really correct.:yikes I have been a DISH subscriber for several years, had an 811 - with family package, old HD - 4 channels, and the voom package when it came out. Last March was told (lied to) by Tech support that if I went with VIP211, I would be able to recieve the new HD channels when they became avalable. So I listened to DISH tec support, traded my owned 811 for new "leased" 211. Now I have "lease fee & hd enabling fee", that I did not have with the 811 :river because I still choose to have the family package-I like the channels with that package & had it at the time I switched to the VIP211, but as new channels have become avalable like Food Net, I cannot get them as I was promised - I would need to change to one of the AT packages. :shocked :shocked

MORAL OF STORY; don't believe things that DISH promises unless it is in writing and do not believe what some people say on forums at what DISH policy is. DISH is in the business to make money, and they will charge any fees or make any changes, to any packages, that they wish/think that they can do.

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Therm

Last reply 14 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

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Not alot of dish customers any more

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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.

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Today at 12:56 PM

I really dislike change for the sake of change

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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

navychop

Yesterday at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

Yesterday at 7:46 PM

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:08 AM

navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what

. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

ncted

Today at 8:58 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade

No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.

ncted

Today at 9:00 AM

KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.

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navychop

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slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

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Another Tulsa King spin off.

But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city

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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Jimbo

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Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 1:19 PM

Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

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Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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dfergie

Yesterday at 4:37 PM

I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...

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Howard Simmons

Today at 11:30 AM

Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

Today at 12:50 PM

Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.

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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.

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dishstaller

Today at 12:43 PM

BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.

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Last reply Today at 12:42 PM · posted in Movie Talk

Project Hail Mary

If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!

View: https://youtu.be/m08TxIsFTRI

Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.

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meStevo

Mar 20, 2026

I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.

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Foxbat

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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.

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klang

Jul 2, 2026

Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.

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TRG

Jul 2, 2026

"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.

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Howard Simmons

Jul 3, 2026

Foxbat said:
"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.

'It Is Time Go!' — Project Hail Mary Is Officially Coming to Prime Video

Amazon has confirmed that Project Hail Mary will be coming to Prime Video.

www.ign.com

That's what I will be watching this weekend.

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klang

Sep 29, 2026

Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.

dishstaller

Today at 12:42 PM

meStevo said:
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.

I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.

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