Dennis, we're currently subscribing to the Ku only package on "X4" aka Galaxy 16. Just as voomvoom and Iceberg said, you'd need a C band dish to be able to get any guide info from the 4D because they only send down the guide on G1. However, it is possible to use it on Ku only. The programming provider can send down "hits" to your receiver while it is on X4. Also, we have worked around the guide issue by using a media center PC to control the 4D receiver. Guide info is displayed on the media center, which is pulled from zap2it, and this also gives us a working pvr. The result is a much much better guide, pvr, and a very inexpensive subscription which fits our needs.
Best of luck.
And to find Ku G16, I usually use 12187 V, 8500. Nothing there in the clear, but it is a 24/7 TP.