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I have had a frustrating month with FTA and yesterday topped it off.
Background:
We have Bell Expressvu on the house with a 9200 and all is good, but like most men, I wanted more which meant FTA. My wife makes a rule which is that I am only allowed one dish on the house, which is the Bell Expressvu. So, we have a clothes line the runs from the deck to the back of the yard which both sides have a pole that is about 12 feet high. We never use the clothes line so I decide that is the perfect spot for a new dish as it is high and will shoot over the trees and have the best potential for LOS accross the arc in the whole property.
FTA Stuff Ordered and Delivered
So I paint the pole black (it was rusting) and order all my FTA stuff. SC 75E dish, Pansat 2800a, SG2100 Motor and an installation kit for some wire. Everything arrives but the SG2100 pole is to small for the SC 75E, so I order the 50mm from Sadoun. In the mean time I put the dish up and align to T5 and AMC4. Love the Fox channel but I thought I would like T5 more, but I do like the news on there. Everything is working fine, but I really want G10 if I am fixed untill I get the motor up and running.
So the next weekend I try for G10. No luck. 45 Minutes out there. The sat finder was going crazy but I could not lock on. I would lock on to the sats to the left and right of it, but could not get it. I make a post on here and Iceberg tells me to use the Sat B side of the lnb because it points straight into the dish.
Now all the big problems.
The 50mm pole arrives and yesterday I try to set up the motor. Reading that the 50mm tube is great, I buy it, but problems arrive. I take the 42mm pole off the SG2100 no problem but the 50mm doesn't fit all the way on as the hole I put the bolt through is not perfect because the 50mm doesn't go all the way. I beat the hell out of it trying to get it to fit and still a no go. Very very close but not enough for the bolt. So i get a smaller bolt and tighten that as much as I could. No movement by hand which is good.
So now I want to put the dish on the SG2100. Another problem. The 42mm had a hole in it for the dish bracket to bolt to so you can elevate the dish properly. The 50mm has no pole, so I don't know what to do as the elevation on the dish is very hard to do now. Any help here would be very nice!!
The problem with the clothes line pole in the back yard is that it isn't perfeclty plumb. It is 90 degrees up and down but looks like this from the side:
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So I mount the SG2100 bracket and wedge some metal at the bottom to make it level. (At least I thought I did). I mount the dish to the motor and hook up all wires. I set the latitude on the motor to 51.6 but I don't know how to read it. I think I use the pointy part on the elevation scale but there is also a O on there too. I then want to point to F1 at 107.3 as it is close to my longitude of 109.8 in the sky. I turn on the 2800a and set my long and lat and tell it to goto F1. The motor moves a bit (I have the receiver outside with me with a tv right there). My sat finder goes grazy but no signal on the 2800a. I run to my dad's house and grab a star choice receiver. Hook it up and I am algned to F2. So I move east more and get F1. Peak it to 99& on the Star Choice receiver and hook up the 2800a and lock down the dish. Still no signal on the 2800a. MAJOR LESSON TO NEWBIES HERE. DO A BLIND SCAN ANYWAYS! The 2800a transponder for F1 was not active! Boom, finds transponders but no FTA channels but I know I am there because of the Star Choice receiver. On the 2800a. Quality of 76%.
Here is the problem. Nothing else on the arc falls in when I use uscals on the receiver. I am assuming I am not level on the SG2100. Am I right?
Also if I am not level, would I only be out on the elevation on every sat? Like if I wanted to motor over to G10. Do I just move the dish up and down and it will lock in?
Any help would be appreciated.
Sorry for the long post, but the more background the better in solving problems.
Background:
We have Bell Expressvu on the house with a 9200 and all is good, but like most men, I wanted more which meant FTA. My wife makes a rule which is that I am only allowed one dish on the house, which is the Bell Expressvu. So, we have a clothes line the runs from the deck to the back of the yard which both sides have a pole that is about 12 feet high. We never use the clothes line so I decide that is the perfect spot for a new dish as it is high and will shoot over the trees and have the best potential for LOS accross the arc in the whole property.
FTA Stuff Ordered and Delivered
So I paint the pole black (it was rusting) and order all my FTA stuff. SC 75E dish, Pansat 2800a, SG2100 Motor and an installation kit for some wire. Everything arrives but the SG2100 pole is to small for the SC 75E, so I order the 50mm from Sadoun. In the mean time I put the dish up and align to T5 and AMC4. Love the Fox channel but I thought I would like T5 more, but I do like the news on there. Everything is working fine, but I really want G10 if I am fixed untill I get the motor up and running.
So the next weekend I try for G10. No luck. 45 Minutes out there. The sat finder was going crazy but I could not lock on. I would lock on to the sats to the left and right of it, but could not get it. I make a post on here and Iceberg tells me to use the Sat B side of the lnb because it points straight into the dish.
Now all the big problems.
The 50mm pole arrives and yesterday I try to set up the motor. Reading that the 50mm tube is great, I buy it, but problems arrive. I take the 42mm pole off the SG2100 no problem but the 50mm doesn't fit all the way on as the hole I put the bolt through is not perfect because the 50mm doesn't go all the way. I beat the hell out of it trying to get it to fit and still a no go. Very very close but not enough for the bolt. So i get a smaller bolt and tighten that as much as I could. No movement by hand which is good.
So now I want to put the dish on the SG2100. Another problem. The 42mm had a hole in it for the dish bracket to bolt to so you can elevate the dish properly. The 50mm has no pole, so I don't know what to do as the elevation on the dish is very hard to do now. Any help here would be very nice!!
The problem with the clothes line pole in the back yard is that it isn't perfeclty plumb. It is 90 degrees up and down but looks like this from the side:
....
...
..
.
So I mount the SG2100 bracket and wedge some metal at the bottom to make it level. (At least I thought I did). I mount the dish to the motor and hook up all wires. I set the latitude on the motor to 51.6 but I don't know how to read it. I think I use the pointy part on the elevation scale but there is also a O on there too. I then want to point to F1 at 107.3 as it is close to my longitude of 109.8 in the sky. I turn on the 2800a and set my long and lat and tell it to goto F1. The motor moves a bit (I have the receiver outside with me with a tv right there). My sat finder goes grazy but no signal on the 2800a. I run to my dad's house and grab a star choice receiver. Hook it up and I am algned to F2. So I move east more and get F1. Peak it to 99& on the Star Choice receiver and hook up the 2800a and lock down the dish. Still no signal on the 2800a. MAJOR LESSON TO NEWBIES HERE. DO A BLIND SCAN ANYWAYS! The 2800a transponder for F1 was not active! Boom, finds transponders but no FTA channels but I know I am there because of the Star Choice receiver. On the 2800a. Quality of 76%.
Here is the problem. Nothing else on the arc falls in when I use uscals on the receiver. I am assuming I am not level on the SG2100. Am I right?
Also if I am not level, would I only be out on the elevation on every sat? Like if I wanted to motor over to G10. Do I just move the dish up and down and it will lock in?
Any help would be appreciated.
Sorry for the long post, but the more background the better in solving problems.
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Is ESPN News changing packages? I see on the lineup card that ESPN News is only available in Top 200 and above now. Is this accurate? Did anyone with Top 120 or 120+ lose ESPN News?
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Curious if you still have ESPN News on 142 right now with AT120 or AT120+. As of today, the Dish website no longer lists it on the public website for that package.
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So I have recently setup Indoor OTA due to drop to Local from Dish, and found out reason why I have such bad signal is my Monitor now none of cable for my monitor near OTA or it cable going to TV, but the TV right above my Monitor maybe not even a foot.
If i have 3 to 2 bars with monitor off said channel for most part of perfectly watchable, but as soon my monitor is ON (show image of desktop or what ever) OTA going to TV halved that 3 to 2 bars become 1 and 2 if I lucky and channels start scrambling alot, and depending on what is being shown on monitor it might out right give no signal, and I can easily restore singal to being bad if change what show on monitor or bring back 3 to 2 bars if I turn monitor off or let it to to standby mode.
I have already disconnect every cable on TV except the OTA cable leaving just that so it not those cable. the Power cable for monitor and DP to DVI cable the monitor is using no where near that OTA cable either.
Any idea on how to fix this? moving my monitor isnt exactly an option neither is moving the tv and moving the OTA to other side room even with long cable dont fix this issue.
I have one those Leaf MoHu antennas 11x3 ones, I had same issue with one gateway mohu antennas the older one too
If i have 3 to 2 bars with monitor off said channel for most part of perfectly watchable, but as soon my monitor is ON (show image of desktop or what ever) OTA going to TV halved that 3 to 2 bars become 1 and 2 if I lucky and channels start scrambling alot, and depending on what is being shown on monitor it might out right give no signal, and I can easily restore singal to being bad if change what show on monitor or bring back 3 to 2 bars if I turn monitor off or let it to to standby mode.
I have already disconnect every cable on TV except the OTA cable leaving just that so it not those cable. the Power cable for monitor and DP to DVI cable the monitor is using no where near that OTA cable either.
Any idea on how to fix this? moving my monitor isnt exactly an option neither is moving the tv and moving the OTA to other side room even with long cable dont fix this issue.
I have one those Leaf MoHu antennas 11x3 ones, I had same issue with one gateway mohu antennas the older one too
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Do you have any splitters or combiners in between the antenna and TV? That can cause issues, especially indoors.
I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.
And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-
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I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.
And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-
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I get I just need to short out the monitor from kill the signal to the tv cause the monitor being on and show image basically castrates signal
I just moved wires around moved power cord away data cord and what not, and some made this issue worse just have my monitor on and show image was enough to just kill signal, I went and moved monitors data cable DP to DVI cable and it came back even if was still spotty at best, now I think it DP to DVI cable I using considering moving seem maninpulate how bad the signal that cable is still no where near OTA cable or any cables going to the tv, the tv and monitor are on the same surge protector though
no spilter is just for my tvDo you have any splitters or combiners in between the antenna and TV? That can cause issues, especially indoors.
I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.
And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-
RabbitEars.Info
RabbitEars, where you can learn all about local, over-the-air TV channels.
I get I just need to short out the monitor from kill the signal to the tv cause the monitor being on and show image basically castrates signal
I just moved wires around moved power cord away data cord and what not, and some made this issue worse just have my monitor on and show image was enough to just kill signal, I went and moved monitors data cable DP to DVI cable and it came back even if was still spotty at best, now I think it DP to DVI cable I using considering moving seem maninpulate how bad the signal that cable is still no where near OTA cable or any cables going to the tv, the tv and monitor are on the same surge protector though
Well, it's grounded up to the Surge Protector anyways ... but if not 3rd prong, it's not grounded ... I don't recall if my TV's have a ground, guess I never thought about it ...
Now ya got me curious, I got to check.
Well, thats interesting, I thought all TV's were grounded ... guess not, maybe they figure if the voltage gets that far, its not going to save the TV ...
get rid of the monitor and plug the computer into the tv and use it as the monitor 
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
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The 'get after it media' stations
www.getafteritmedia.com
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
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Thanks Mr Tony, Hopefully no duplicates and put on like Revin, Karate movies.
It would be nice if they can put a least 2 HD 2 or 3 SD diginets for Albuquerque metro areas.
It would be nice if they can put a least 2 HD 2 or 3 SD diginets for Albuquerque metro areas.
Hope they got good subchannels encoder going there...
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I was pretty satisfied by the Finale as well. So many multi-season shows come up short, but this one was well done. The whole season has had a pretty high body count (including some of the executive producers
) so the tombstone seemed quite appropriate.
Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.
) so the tombstone seemed quite appropriate.Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.
I was pretty satisfied by the Finale as well. So many multi-season shows come up short, but this one was well done. The whole season has had a pretty high body count (including some of the executive producers
Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.
Gen V was cancelled already. The story of The Boys is over, it's on to the prequel now.
All that buildup in their series and they were called useless, retconned and sidelined in the finale.
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
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CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
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Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.
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Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
Tapatalk has been removed.
I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.
I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.