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I have had a frustrating month with FTA and yesterday topped it off.

Background:

We have Bell Expressvu on the house with a 9200 and all is good, but like most men, I wanted more which meant FTA. My wife makes a rule which is that I am only allowed one dish on the house, which is the Bell Expressvu. So, we have a clothes line the runs from the deck to the back of the yard which both sides have a pole that is about 12 feet high. We never use the clothes line so I decide that is the perfect spot for a new dish as it is high and will shoot over the trees and have the best potential for LOS accross the arc in the whole property.

FTA Stuff Ordered and Delivered

So I paint the pole black (it was rusting) and order all my FTA stuff. SC 75E dish, Pansat 2800a, SG2100 Motor and an installation kit for some wire. Everything arrives but the SG2100 pole is to small for the SC 75E, so I order the 50mm from Sadoun. In the mean time I put the dish up and align to T5 and AMC4. Love the Fox channel but I thought I would like T5 more, but I do like the news on there. Everything is working fine, but I really want G10 if I am fixed untill I get the motor up and running.

So the next weekend I try for G10. No luck. 45 Minutes out there. The sat finder was going crazy but I could not lock on. I would lock on to the sats to the left and right of it, but could not get it. I make a post on here and Iceberg tells me to use the Sat B side of the lnb because it points straight into the dish.

Now all the big problems.

The 50mm pole arrives and yesterday I try to set up the motor. Reading that the 50mm tube is great, I buy it, but problems arrive. I take the 42mm pole off the SG2100 no problem but the 50mm doesn't fit all the way on as the hole I put the bolt through is not perfect because the 50mm doesn't go all the way. I beat the hell out of it trying to get it to fit and still a no go. Very very close but not enough for the bolt. So i get a smaller bolt and tighten that as much as I could. No movement by hand which is good.

So now I want to put the dish on the SG2100. Another problem. The 42mm had a hole in it for the dish bracket to bolt to so you can elevate the dish properly. The 50mm has no pole, so I don't know what to do as the elevation on the dish is very hard to do now. Any help here would be very nice!!

The problem with the clothes line pole in the back yard is that it isn't perfeclty plumb. It is 90 degrees up and down but looks like this from the side:
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So I mount the SG2100 bracket and wedge some metal at the bottom to make it level. (At least I thought I did). I mount the dish to the motor and hook up all wires. I set the latitude on the motor to 51.6 but I don't know how to read it. I think I use the pointy part on the elevation scale but there is also a O on there too. I then want to point to F1 at 107.3 as it is close to my longitude of 109.8 in the sky. I turn on the 2800a and set my long and lat and tell it to goto F1. The motor moves a bit (I have the receiver outside with me with a tv right there). My sat finder goes grazy but no signal on the 2800a. I run to my dad's house and grab a star choice receiver. Hook it up and I am algned to F2. So I move east more and get F1. Peak it to 99& on the Star Choice receiver and hook up the 2800a and lock down the dish. Still no signal on the 2800a. MAJOR LESSON TO NEWBIES HERE. DO A BLIND SCAN ANYWAYS! The 2800a transponder for F1 was not active! Boom, finds transponders but no FTA channels but I know I am there because of the Star Choice receiver. On the 2800a. Quality of 76%.

Here is the problem. Nothing else on the arc falls in when I use uscals on the receiver. I am assuming I am not level on the SG2100. Am I right?

Also if I am not level, would I only be out on the elevation on every sat? Like if I wanted to motor over to G10. Do I just move the dish up and down and it will lock in?

Any help would be appreciated.

Sorry for the long post, but the more background the better in solving problems.
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turbosat
You might find G10 that way, but may take awhile. And if the pole is not really plumb you could be far enough off with the tracking, to miss it entirely. Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble, getting the pole 'just right' is fairly critical to ku digital, If you can't have another pole in, maybe you can replace the one you're trying to use-and be sure to get it as plumb and level as possible.
M
I then want to point to F1 at 107.3 as it is close to my longitude of 109.8 in the sky.
I'd aim at 110 if you have an old DBS LNB around since that is dead south for you...The other option is to use USALS to move the motor first then aim at satellite since you are 2 degrees off dead south. Set USALS (lat & long), let motor move to 107.3 then aim the dish/motor assembly


MAJOR LESSON TO NEWBIES HERE. DO A BLIND SCAN ANYWAYS! The 2800a transponder for F1 was not active! Boom, finds transponders but no FTA channels but I know I am there because of the Star Choice receiver. On the 2800a. Quality of 76%.
so true. A blind scan can save you....also I'd scan it as all as some satellites have no FTA channels but scrambeld ones
E
Spent another 20 minutes out there last night. (kids! no free time! grrrrr!)

One thing I noticed after reading more on the forum was that my SG2100 wasn't pointing to my dead south sat (F1) along with the dish. So I went out and moved it to true south and aligned the dish to what I thought was F1.

Went inside and nothing. (I was actually on F2, but the Pansat is set to F1). Long story short. I am very very close now as I tell the Pansat to goto G25. It moves there. I use D1.2 and move it east 8-9 times and I get G25.

I am very close and I get 75% of the arc this way so far.

Still having problems with G10. Moved there. I get the Research Channel no problem but it doesn't find the main two transponders on a smart search. Quality is 25% which might be the problem.

I still need more time and help, but to answer some questions regarding an 75E ellipitcal dish and motorizing it. It does work.
iafirebuff
Sounds like you are real close on G10. Move it just a nudge.......barely move it and scan again. It will seem like you did not even move the dish. G10 is worth all the hassle that you have had :-)
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
Let me fix that for you:
Baker Street - Gerry Rafferty
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
sdfntx
Sorry to hear this. R.I.P.
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My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
brittanygarden
Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks. :)
Jim5506
Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks. :)
I have the dual tuner OTA adapter currently connected, but I have 2 of the single tuner OTA adapters that I can quickly connect - neither is seen by my H3.
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Got the dual tuner OTA adapter, was able to set it up and get back my OTA channels. Thanks to everyone and extra thanks to the DISH reps in this forum!
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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rvvaquero
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
rvvaquero
Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
meStevo
Got to unfurl and hold the flag at Allegiant for the anthem today - amazing experience.
HipKat
Balls
Bears. Gave the Pats a good beatdown.
Bucs. Got Baker back and absolutely demolished the previously surprising Panthers.
Falcons. Took care of the 49ers and did so convincingly.
Vikings. I hate them. I do. I've never seen such a bad/good team. Know what I mean? I know their D is epic. But their O is insulting. How they remain undefeated is a mystery.
Rams. Finally looked the part. Mind you against the hapless Cards.
Cowboys. Fireworks performance from their O.
Dolphins. Finally logged in a W. There won't be many. Enjoy it, Miami fans.
Browns. Still atop the AFC North.
Giants. Epic OT win with Buffalo's very own Motor Singletary finishing it off.
Seattle. Dominated KC from start to finish.

Goats
Jets. Couldn't beat the winless Dolphins. Aaron Glenn is a dead man walking.
Eagles. Injured beyond repair
Ravens and Lamar. Has he ever played a full season? Honestly, dude is fragile. Of course he's back for the Bills game.
49ers. No longer undefeated.
Colts. A sh*t show. When are they gonna realize that Daniel Jones is ass?
Steelers vs Saints game. Ass, just ass all around. Those poor people in Paris have had enough lately, and on top of that, endure that game.
Chiefs. They looked terrible. Like really bad.
Pack vs. Detroit game refs. Some of the worst refereeing I've seen in a long time. And the sample is pretty large.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
TRG
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dishdude
It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
harshness
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
dishstaller
Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
S
Haven't listened AM or FM in years
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JSheridan
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
S
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
T
But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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