Got it - I misunderstood!Well yes I do...I was quoting your post re: their previous locs on ch's 94xx, with the "moved" notifications in the EPG, that all of those previous 94xx channels are completely gone now.
Got it - I misunderstood!Well yes I do...I was quoting your post re: their previous locs on ch's 94xx, with the "moved" notifications in the EPG, that all of those previous 94xx channels are completely gone now.
| Channel | Type | Network | Now | Was |
| 138 | HD | TNT | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 142 | HD | ESPNews | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 149 | HD | Fox Sports 2 | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 165 | HD | Gfamily | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 167 | HD | AXS | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 212 | HD | OAN | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 215 | HD | WeatherNation | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 231 | HD | RFD | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 239 | SD | LAFF | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 241 | HD | Paramount Network | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 249 | HD | Crime and Investigation | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 260 | HD | TBN | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 289 | HD | Comet | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 313 | HD | HBO Latino | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 322 | SD | Showtime Extreme | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 360 | SD | Grio | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 366 | SD | MTVU | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 367 | HD | Smithsonian | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 368 | SD | Nick Music | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 378 | HD | Indieplex | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 379 | HD | Retroplex | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 384 | HD | FXM | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 386 | HD | Sony | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 388 | HD | PIXL | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 390 | SD | Outside Television | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 395 | HD | Sportsman Channel | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 22 |
| 400 | HD | Tennis Channel | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 831 | SD | MLMDS | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 832 | SD | Centro | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 834 | SD | PSNES | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 836 | SD | Telemundo | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 837 | SD | TLNOV | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 838 | HD | Universo | 110, TP 13 | 110, TP 22 |
| 839 | SD | Ant3 | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 840 | SD | TVEI | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 841 | SD | NTEL | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 843 | SD | History Channel Spanish | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 846 | SD | DS Fam | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 847 | SD | Uforo | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 848 | SD | MLNIO | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 849 | SD | CNN Spanish | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 863 | SD | MXCNL | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 865 | SD | Cine Latino | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 890 | SD | VDRLA | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 891 | SD | TRS3 | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 4801 | SD | Foro TV (same as 847) | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 4803 | SD | TL Novellas (same as 837) | 110, TP 06 | 110, TP 16 |
| 6002 | Music | SXM02 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6004 | Music | SXM04 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6005 | Music | SXM05 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6006 | Music | SXM06 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6007 | Music | SXM07 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6009 | Music | SXM09 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6010 | Music | SXM10 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6016 | Music | SXM16 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6042 | Music | SXM42 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6046 | Music | SXM46 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6047 | Music | SXM47 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6048 | Music | SXM48 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6049 | Music | SXM49 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6050 | Music | SXM50 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6055 | Music | SXM55 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6056 | Music | SXM56 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6057 | Music | SXM57 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6058 | Music | SXM58 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6059 | Music | SXM59 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6060 | Music | SXM60 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6062 | Music | SXM62 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6064 | Music | SXM64 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6066 | Music | SXM66 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6068 | Music | SXM68 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6070 | Music | SXM70 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6074 | Music | SXM74 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6075 | Music | SXM75 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6091 | Music | SXM91 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6094 | Music | SXM94 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6095 | Music | SXM95 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 6096 | Music | SXM96 | 110, TP 01 | 110, TP 21 |
| 327/9481 | HD | Movie Channel East | 110, TP 02 | 110, TP 13 |
| 354/9486 | HD | Starz Comedy | 119, TP 17 | 119, TP 21 |
| 380/9533 | HD | MGM+ | 110, TP 19 | 110, TP 13 |
| 382/9504 | HD | MGM+ Marquee | 110, TP 19 | 110, TP 13 |
I am guessing it has something to do with the new satellite that has been launched.
Correct. 110 will be 100 percent spot beams for locals. 119w is the Conus satellite that will provide everything else.I do not subscribe to any locals since I get them all OTA. So does this mean that down the road, I will only need to worry about signal strength and dish alignment from 119 and that none of my c
Yeah, that is what it looks like they are going to do. Move all the national channels to 119, and they are lining up for a quick transponder switch.Correct. 110 will be 100 percent spot beams for locals. 119w is the Conus satellite that will provide everything else.I do not subscribe to any locals since I get them all OTA. So does this mean that down the road, I will only need to worry about signal strength and dish alignment from 119 and that none of my c
I appreciate you doing all of this. With me having DISH Outdoors this is excellent for when I travel and have to get other locals. Also what does this mean for the 61.5 satellite?Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
I just saw your response and posted on the other thread! In terms of 61.5, I don't have Eastern Arc, and my friend who I used to get Eastern Arc info from no longer has Dish.I appreciate you doing all of this. With me having DISH Outdoors this is excellent for when I travel and have to get other locals. Also what does this mean for the 61.5 satellite?
My home locals come out of Springfield/Decatur/Champaign, IL.
I too have taken noticed they moved to the 110 satellite with the spotbeam of 27. Signal Strength is between 46-47. When they were on 119 satellite I was getting about 43-44 signal strength. Much improvement!
Also my post about MLB Extra Innings. I think it may be due to this transition of satellites between 110 & 119
MLB Extra Innings use to be on 110 Satellite. On my guide it only lists 476-01 Baltimore Orioles but I clicked on it and it says its on Satellite 119 with Transponder 13. Maybe this is the reason for my troubles! Shouldn't of fried my DISH though! DISH owes me LOL! Like I will really see it.
RJ T.
From Illinois
RJ T.
From Illinois
That is okay. Its just when I sometimes go east the locals there are on 61.5 and sometimes have to use it. It will be great to only have to use the 110 & 119 satellite. No reason to use the 61.5 unless there is a problem receiving 119 there and most of the time at least for me it doesn't seem to be an issue. Maybe more up in the very northeast part of the US.I just saw your response and posted on the other thread! In terms of 61.5, I don't have Eastern Arc, and my friend who I used to get Eastern Arc info from no longer has Dish.