2026-27 NCAA College Football
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But it's only the replay clock that mattered. Makes a good case for clocks in football to show tenth's of a second, because all it takes is a sub 1-second delay in the video pipeline and that easily accounts for the discrepancy between NBC's clock and the replay clock.
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The game clock is synchronized (presumably advanced by the fractional delay in the video pipeline) with all of the video cameras 85 minutes before the game to insure that the video cameras are showing the accurate game time.
What was being shown during the broadcast replay was an inset of the camera aimed at the official game clock (presumably with the same video pipeline delay as the game play camera) rather than NBC's "score bug" clock (that uses a network connection directly to the scoreboard controller). I'm not on board with the idea that the content of the inset is that far removed from a video time code perspective.
There are no tenths remaining at the instant the game clock strikes zero. The digit "1" actually appears for two seconds.
Watching morning news and they had a segment from the OSU/TU game Saturday showing a laser temp gun pointed at the turf and showing the turf was 161F at game time. 
Not the temperature, as much as the "wet bulb" temperature. A wet bulb in the 90s is dangerous to survival in general, forget about people wrapped up in pads, in the sun, heavily exerting themselves. The issue is the body becomes more incapable of regulating its internal temperature with that humidity / temperature mix.
Hopefully, or people would be going to the hospital, possibly dying.
The dubious statement is presuming that 9 seconds at the start of the play is 9.0 seconds. That is a baseless presumption. From what I can garner online, the clock is indeed fractional.
When the clock reads 0:00, that means the game is over, so it is prerequisite to accept that 0:00 means 0:00.00. So when the clock says 0:09, that does not mean it has to be 0:09.00. It implies that there is between 0:08.01ish to 0:09.00 seconds remaining.
Now, it is possible that 0:09 remaining is about 8.65 seconds or greater and the consequences of this are there is a fraction of a second left if we dissect this deeply enough.
My conclusion is this is at best the wrong call for the right reason because it is inconsistent with how every other play was called in this game (and most of the others ever played in the last 40 years). The precision of time should be the same in every play. They didn't give a darn if the clock stopped at the exact right moment going out of bounds, so why to the tenth or hundredth on the last play?
I'm still not buying the argument either. If the replay system wasn't there, this unique clock with milliseconds that everybody keeps talking about would not have been either. The official clock would've been the stadium clock, as it's been for the history of college football. There shouldn't be two clocks. The stadium clock that everyone watches for the duration of the game should be the clock plain and simple. If there is this other "secret" clock, then it needs to be what is shown on TV and in the stadium too.
I honestly think one problem is now we've got too much replay. When we didn't have it everybody wanted it, then they wanted it to apply to every situation, and as a result now we have too much of it. There are times the game just needs to be played and what happens is what happens.
I honestly think one problem is now we've got too much replay. When we didn't have it everybody wanted it, then they wanted it to apply to every situation, and as a result now we have too much of it. There are times the game just needs to be played and what happens is what happens.
This is one of those cases when it was the only way to answer the valid challenge. That the answer appears to be wrong is an entirely different issue.
The YouTube poster is presenting their assumptions as fact. There are no "atomic clocks" involved in a game clock. That said, because the clock wasn't counting down until after the play commenced, it is safe to assume that's what the scoreboard indicated before the play commenced. I'm not familiar with the relationship between the game clock and the scoreboard clock but I'd assume that they are one and the same.
Doing a frame-by-frame timing based on a YouTube video is not what the officials reviewed. It is not likely to be at the same frame rate as the NBC cameras (some integer multiple of 29.97fps) due to YouTube's ingestion process and/or the way the game footage was captured (presumably using OBS studio).
The officials reportedly reviewed a split screen of the play and the game clock according to the conference's justification. We saw a replay where the game clock was inset into the play which is probably the next best thing to the split screen. The replay equipment maintains synchronization of the cameras down to the video frame level.
If there was a high-frame-rate slo-mo camera on the ball, I'm suspicious that we weren't shown that replay. Even a "follow the ball" detail camera would have been a better choice but there's probably some policies in place to avoid second-guessing of the officials.
I am having the largest doubts in my mind that had Western Michigan been on offense that call would have been awarded.
I'm doubting that if the ball was deflected and then caught by Michigan, that the call would have been reversed because the foot was out for the defender on the deflection.
One of the pictures I've seen shows the time inserted with the play and the Clock said Zero and the ball was still about 10 feet in the Air, hadn't been touched yet ... that would show Play Over ...
At the end of the prior play the officials reset the clock to 9 seconds.
The instant any out-of-bounds person (including any players, officials, or stadium staff) touches the ball, it becomes an incomplete pass, as ruled. It comes down to whether that touch was before or after the game clock ran out. If the game clock hadn't run out, there would be another down, again as ruled.
It all comes down to what the officials said they saw on the replay. Since it was a non-conference game, I'm not sure why anyone would bother trying to change the outcome, but that sure seems, based on what we've seen, to be what happened.
The argument from the Big-10 Commisioner that the game clock was "more accurate" than what NBC showed is blown out of the water, as NBC was showing the game clock in the replay. To suggest that it is a "battle of the clocks" (where a large-scale video production setup would beat out almost anything short of an atomic clock) is both a losing battle and a red herring.
It could very well have a bearing on the national standings in six or eight weeks. Correctly or not, a large emphasis is put on wins and losses to get into the playoffs.
FSU vs SMU tonight was to start at 7:30 pm, then the stadium had a Power Outage ...
Looks like they may play in the dark ...
They look to start the game at 9:15 ... in the dark ... generator lights look to be lighting very little.
No replays ? No communication between Coaches and QB/LB on the field. No Ipads for changing your scheme.
They may play it as they use to play.
This will be interesting.
www.espn.com
Looks like they may play in the dark ...
They look to start the game at 9:15 ... in the dark ... generator lights look to be lighting very little.
No replays ? No communication between Coaches and QB/LB on the field. No Ipads for changing your scheme.
They may play it as they use to play.
This will be interesting.
Start of SMU-Florida State game delayed by power outage
The start of the game between No. 19 SMU and Florida State on Monday night was delayed due to a power outage.
That would seemingly settle the clock at 0:09.00.
The odd thing though is the stadium clock should also be at 0:09.00.
