2nd Quarter 10K

[nelson61]

The second quarter report is gruesome but well worth taking the time to review.
Unlike many companies, EchoStar has always provided a full and lucid report of their status (nothing skipped or hidden).

SEC Edgar Link:

https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1415404/000155837025009923/tmb-20250630x10q.htm

EchoStar 25 still listed for 2026 launch to 110W. They have added EchoStar 26 with a projected launch to 119W in 2028.

Satellite TV subscriptions continue their slow slide downward>

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[dishdude]

I'm shocked they're launching two satellites. It's like drunken soldiers are running this company.

 

[bookworm370]

I'm shocked they're launching two satellites. It's like drunken soldiers are running this company.

If they don't, they will destroy it quicker and not fulfill their federal responsibilities. These are replacement satellites; satellites do have limited life spans. So, it's to keep the company running, or would you prefer they just go out of business?

 

[navychop]

The Moose may have nothing up his sleeve, but I suspect Charlie does.

 

[dishdude]

If they don't, they will destroy it quicker and not fulfill their federal responsibilities. These are replacement satellites; satellites do have limited life spans. So, it's to keep the company running, or would you prefer they just go out of business?

They need to focus on delivering video over their 5G network, satellite TV days are numbered. That investment should be going towards a 5G STB and 5G home internet.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Not to mention their new 5 Billion Dollar satellite service announced earlier this week.

Thread 'EchoStar Sellects MDA space'

Aug 1, 2025

ECHOSTAR SELECTS MDA SPACE FOR WORLD'S FIRST OPEN RAN BROADBAND NTN LEO CONSTELLATION

The new satellite network will enable a wide range of services to consumers, enterprises and governments across the globe, ensuring U.S. leadership in direct to device (D2D) connectivity and the space economy
The wideband LEO constellation will cover all 350 million Americans including Alaska and Hawaii and over 7 billion additional people globally

Estimated total cost of EchoStar's LEO constellation is $5 billion, increasing the company's total investment in NTN satellite...​

• Scott Greczkowski
• Replies: 29
• Forum: DISH Network Support Forum

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[navychop]

Let's all check under the sofa cushions….

 

[nelson61]

I would think Amazon would want to buy the whole thing.

Fits their video marketing, their space network, and a wireless network to go up against Google

 

[dishdude]

I would think Amazon would want to buy the whole thing.

Fits their video marketing, their space network, and a wireless network to go up against Google

Now that would really change the mobile phone industry. I could see Walmart buying it as well.

 

[Radioguy41]

They need to focus on delivering video over their 5G network, satellite TV days are numbered. That investment should be going towards a 5G STB and 5G home internet.

How's your track record running the company compared to Charlie? Not as good I bet. Isn't it funny that no matter how often you claim he doesn't know what he's doing he somehow manages to outsmart everybody. The constant nay saying is wearing thin.

 

[AZ.]

How's your track record running the company compared to Charlie? Not as good I bet. Isn't it funny that no matter how often you claim he doesn't know what he's doing he somehow manages to outsmart everybody. The constant nay saying is wearing thin.

Or he is very lucky? His background is Vegas....At some point luck does run out.

 

[dishdude]

How's your track record running the company compared to Charlie? Not as good I bet. Isn't it funny that no matter how often you claim he doesn't know what he's doing he somehow manages to outsmart everybody. The constant nay saying is wearing thin.

Charlie? Is that you?

 

[Derek K]

I'm shocked they're launching two satellites. It's like drunken soldiers are running this company.

I want to know where all this money is coming from

 

[MikeD-C05]

I want to know where all this money is coming from

It's not coming from Charlie Ergen's personal worth. He had his peak wealth of $20.1 billion in 2015 according to Forbes. In 2017 Forbes estimated he dropped to $18.8 billion making him the wealthiest person in Colorado at the time. In 2023 his net worth dropped , and he lost his billionaire status, primarily due to decline in Dish and EchoStar's share price. After the FCC approved of the merger of DISH and EchoStar, his net worth rebounded, bringing him back to the billionaire ranks with an estimated $1.3 billion as of Dec. of 2023. As of November of 2024 Forbes estimated his net worth as $2.5 billion.

 

[Derek K]

It's not coming from Charlie Ergen's personal worth. He had his peak wealth of $20.1 billion in 2015 according to Forbes. In 2017 Forbes estimated he dropped to $18.8 billion making him the wealthiest person in Colorado at the time. In 2023 his net worth dropped , and he lost his billionaire status, primarily due to decline in Dish and EchoStar's share price. After the FCC approved of the merger of DISH and EchoStar, his net worth rebounded, bringing him back to the billionaire ranks with an estimated $1.3 billion as of Dec. of 2023. As of November of 2024 Forbes estimated his net worth as $2.5 billion.

I figured that. Most of Charlies billions in personal worth are on paper and are dependent on DISH stock.

What I mean is where is DISH coming up with all this money for all these new satellites? One day we see the headlines that they don't have enough cash on hand to last another 12 months, next minute we read that they are ordering a fleet of satellites,

I hope they can pull it off, but it doesn't look that good.

 

[MikeD-C05]

I figured that. Most of Charlies billions in personal worth are on paper and are dependent on DISH stock.

What I mean is where is DISH coming up with all this money for all these new satellites? One day we see the headlines that they don't have enough cash on hand to last another 12 months, next minute we read that they are ordering a fleet of satellites,

I hope they can pull it off, but it doesn't look that good.

I don't know if they have the money to pay for the satellites that they ordered. Maybe they are buying them on time or lay away?

 

[Derek K]

I don't know if they have the money to pay for the satellites that they ordered. Maybe they are buying them on time or lay away?

Maybe there will be a blue light special on satellites