All DMA's now Western Arc

[HipKat]

So then what's this "different" 1000.2 LNBF for EA? I had thought they called it 1000.4 for EA.

DUDE, the 1000.4 was a different antenna that has not been used for many years for Western Arc and was used briefly for Eastern Arc until it was replaced by the 1000.2 dish.

 

[HipKat]

1000.2 for eastern arc is diffrent than for western arc, You need a western arc LNB INSTALLED on your easten 1000,2 Antenna.then tune to 110/119. Your EA LNBF AND WESTERN LNB look diffrent. 1000.4 end of life it is used for 61.5/72 and 77 The problem is lot of people cant hit western arc because of trees etc. You can get a two 300 dish 18 antenna and install a DPP LNB and hit 110 and 119 and use a switch you will get very good signal.

Actually, DPP technology is dead for WA. 500 kits with DPH LNB's will work for Hoppers, Wallys and VIP's now

 

[HipKat]

So there has to be some kind of a model # difference between an LNBF for a 1000.2 on EA and one for WA...How were they differentiated for purchase from distributor? What do you look for on eBay?

smh

Western 1000.2 LNB - no longer used

Eastern DPP 1000.2 LNB - only used for VIP, Hopper Duo and Wallys.

Eastern Arc 1000.2 Hybrid LNB for Hopper 2 and 3

WA DPH TWIN LNBF
Used now for ALL receivers on Western Arc with Dish 500 Kit

1000.2 Eastern Arc

 

[bnewt]

I am on eastern arc and still receive all programming, including locals. I have not heard a word from dish. Will I just wake up one day to no programming?

 

[navychop]

Years down the road

 

[renjy651]

Years down the road

Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

 

[telstar_1]

But if you're on eBay there will likely be plenty of 1000's available from all of the DiSH quitters, and they work just as well as a new 500 from charlie

 

[brad1138]

Now that 129 is out of the picture, LOS for the western arc shouldn't be too bad. Up in the NE the look angle for 129 was ridiculously low.

In the early days of HD, 61.5 had the only HD content. From western Washington State, it was a 9 degree elevation. lol.

 

[telstar_1]

Actually, DPP technology is dead for WA. 500 kits with DPH LNB's will work for Hoppers, Wallys and VIP's now

So the WA Triple won't suffice for the latest hopper tech?

I know there was a triple used on EA, that was different from the WA triple

 

[dishrich]

So the WA Triple won't suffice for the latest hopper tech?

It will, IF you use this hybrid LNBF, which ONLY fits on the 1000.2 dishes, & has been the only WA dish/LNBF they were using until they killed 129:

DISH 1000.2 Slimline Hybrid LNB Western Arc with Bracket (ES217837-BRKT)

DescriptionDISH 1000.2 Slimline Hybrid Western Arc LNB with Bracket (ES217837-BRKT)Best ForDISH 1000.2 Western Arc installations needing a compatible Hybrid LNB plus mounting bracket.Why Choose It?This kit pairs the ES217837 Hybrid Western Arc LNB with its required bracket.Key BenefitsWestern...

www.solidsignal.com

But again...there is NO point whatsoever to be using any of the old triple sat dishes, when the new D500 dish/hybrid LNBF, is ALL you need, for ANY install now. And to repeat ad nausea, if a sub needs any type of service work on their system (upgrade receivers/replace defective dish/LNBF, move from EA to WA, etc.) they are going to replace the entire dish with the new D500 hybrid dish/LNBF - period!

 

[brad1138]

It will, IF you use this hybrid LNBF, which ONLY fits on the 1000.2 dishes, & has been the only WA dish/LNBF they were using until they killed 129:

DISH 1000.2 Slimline Hybrid LNB Western Arc with Bracket (ES217837-BRKT)

DescriptionDISH 1000.2 Slimline Hybrid Western Arc LNB with Bracket (ES217837-BRKT)Best ForDISH 1000.2 Western Arc installations needing a compatible Hybrid LNB plus mounting bracket.Why Choose It?This kit pairs the ES217837 Hybrid Western Arc LNB with its required bracket.Key BenefitsWestern...

www.solidsignal.com

But again...there is NO point whatsoever to be using any of the old triple sat dishes, when the new D500 dish/hybrid LNBF, is ALL you need, for ANY install now. And to repeat ad nausea, if a sub needs any type of service work on their system (upgrade receivers/replace defective dish/LNBF, move from EA to WA, etc.) they are going to replace the entire dish with the new D500 hybrid dish/LNBF - period!

I wouldn't say "NO" reason.

We have a number of the 1000.2 dishes and DPP triple LNBs (WA) still in stock, as a small retailer, we don't go through them real fast. We are keeping them to use for Wally installs and/or service calls with bad DPP triple lnbs. We paid for that equipment and will use it where it works until it is gone.

 

[NYDutch]

It will, IF you use this hybrid LNBF, which ONLY fits on the 1000.2 dishes, & has been the only WA dish/LNBF they were using until they killed 129:

DISH 1000.2 Slimline Hybrid LNB Western Arc with Bracket (ES217837-BRKT)

DescriptionDISH 1000.2 Slimline Hybrid Western Arc LNB with Bracket (ES217837-BRKT)Best ForDISH 1000.2 Western Arc installations needing a compatible Hybrid LNB plus mounting bracket.Why Choose It?This kit pairs the ES217837 Hybrid Western Arc LNB with its required bracket.Key BenefitsWestern...

www.solidsignal.com

But again...there is NO point whatsoever to be using any of the old triple sat dishes, when the new D500 dish/hybrid LNBF, is ALL you need, for ANY install now. And to repeat ad nausea, if a sub needs any type of service work on their system (upgrade receivers/replace defective dish/LNBF, move from EA to WA, etc.) they are going to replace the entire dish with the new D500 hybrid dish/LNBF - period!

Are Dish installers allowed to do rooftop/chimney upgrades now?

 

[slow_poke_pete]

Are Dish installers allowed to do rooftop/chimney upgrades now?

my guess is no. last i knew they weren't supposed to leave the ladder.

 

[HipKat]

my guess is no. last i knew they weren't supposed to leave the ladder.

That doesn't mean they all don't

 

[NYDutch]

That doesn't mean they all don't

I'm curious how the EA rooftop and chimney mount installs will be upgraded to the WA 500 dish installs. I expect some will be converted to pole or eave mounts, while others will still need the rooftop or chimney mount for WA LOS.

 

[Mister B]

Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

 

[HipKat]

I'm curious how the EA rooftop and chimney mount installs will be upgraded to the WA 500 dish installs. I expect some will be converted to pole or eave mounts, while others will still need the rooftop or chimney mount for WA LOS.

Either the Dish gets relocated, or if there's LOS and the tech is more concerned with getting the job done than following the rules, and the roof is walkable, he'll just change it to WA

 

[dishrich]

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD.

Unfortunately while realistically it probably won't be EVERY ch, if E* ends up getting those last 3 x-ponders@110 in Feb 2027, they could actually do wonders with having that much more capacity, since they stopped with SD dupes of HD channels, & no longer offer RSN's:

Post in thread 'All DMA's now Western Arc'

Sep 26, 2026

In a related matter, the DIRECTV DBS license for the 3 frequencies on the inactive T5 satellite located at 110W expires on Feb 28, 2027.

It's quite likely, FCC will refuse to renew the license since it is not serving the DBS market.
Then EchoStar could get permission to use the 3 frequencies on a provisional or possibly permanent licensed basis for DBS service unless or until someone else licenses and operates a DBS satellite at that location.

This would be similar to the 61W location where EchoStar has operated provisionally on several frequencies for many years.

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[slow_poke_pete]

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota

 

[zippyfrog]

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.