AMC4 go bye bye

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hi guys
is it true that AMC4 channels are moving to Galaxy19?
most important rtpi Portuguese channel
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AMC4 satellite is due for replacement in May with new satellite SES-1. SES1 will have a smaller footprint and be focused primarily on the US and Canada. Many broadcasters are moving to Galaxy19 to continue to maintain coverage of the Caribbean, Mexico and Cenral America.

Based on projected EIRP maps, we expect the replacement satellite SES1 to have a stronger signal within the US / Canada footprint. SES1 should be a great domestic distribution satellite.

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"Early April: A Proton/Breeze M to launch an SES 1 communications satellite for SES. (The satellite was originally known as OS-1 and it was designed to service a US domestic market. The name changed again from AMC-4R to SES-1 for marketing purposes around January 2010). Under a contract announced at the Paris Air Show on June 18, 2007, in 2009-2013 Proton rocket with Breeze M upper stage was to launch five SES satellites for SES Satellite Leasing. According to the agreement, the Proton flights would be available to SES' operating companies: SES AMERICOM, SES ASTRA, SES NEW SKIES and SES SIRIUS. On March 18, 2009, the launch date for OS-1 (later AMC 4R) was announced for early 2010."
 
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Last night on 3ABN LIVE broadcast show, Moses Primo (3ABN's satellite engineer) stated that AMC-4 has issues with the Ku functionality but is still working well enough for C-band and that it will be moved to the east side to backup AMC-5 which is failing fast. They will use what life still remains in AMC-4 until releasing it towards the Sun for termination.

EDIT: If you're interested, you can watch this broadcast with Mr. Primo, it will be airing again today and for the next day or so. You can check their broadcast schedule at http://www.3abntv.org/schedule.cfm be sure to select your time zone.

I found it very interesting!

3ABN Today LIVE - 1st Hour #10510 (3abn Behind The Scenes)
3ABN Today LIVE - 2nd Hour #10510 (3abn Behind The Scenes)
 
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I hope some specific (Special Channels :) ) stay on AMC-4.
 
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Last night on 3ABN LIVE broadcast show, Moses Primo (3ABN's satellite engineer) stated that AMC-4 has issues with the Ku functionality but is still working well enough for C-band and that it will be moved to the east side to backup AMC-5 which is failing fast. They will use what life still remains in AMC-4 until releasing it towards the Sun for termination.

EDIT: If you're interested, you can watch this broadcast with Mr. Primo, it will be airing again today and for the next day or so. You can check their broadcast schedule at 3ABN Television Schedule be sure to select your time zone.

I found it very interesting!

3ABN Today LIVE - 1st Hour #10510 (3abn Behind The Scenes)
3ABN Today LIVE - 2nd Hour #10510 (3abn Behind The Scenes)

Thanks to SatelliteAV we had Mr. Primo as a guest on a recent edition of the SatelliteGuys Radio Show. :)
 
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Last night on 3ABN LIVE broadcast show, Moses Primo (3ABN's satellite engineer) stated that AMC-4 has issues with the Ku functionality but is still working well enough for C-band and that it will be moved to the east side to backup AMC-5 which is failing fast. They will use what life still remains in AMC-4 until releasing it towards the Sun for termination.
That doesnt make sense as AMC5 is KU only.


But as for what is moving, only the Glorystar channels seem to be moving to 97W. I know SatAV said more channels will take the place on 101W

I'm not worried. Heck there are a couple sats out there that are pretty useless on KU (127, 129, 85, 111) but as long as there is a sat there I'll keep checking it :)
 
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SES-1 is going to replace both AMC-4 and AMC-2. It will carry 24 c-band and 24 Ku-band transponders. The bird will still cover the caribbean. More info from the source is here....
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http://www.orbital.com/SatellitesSpace/Communications/AMC5R/
SES-1 is part of a multi satellite order consisting of SES-1, 2, and 3. 4-24-10 is the target launce date for SES-1. Have a great day! :)
 
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By the way... wrote to RTPi and received the following information:
They confirmed that there's some issues with AMC4 satellite (Solar panels) and satellite will be shutdown in the next 3-4months. They are also confirming they are reviewing different possibilities and they will provide a solution by July 2010. The plan is to provide RTPi from 2 different satellites (C and Ku band).

Until then... wait... They will inform population when the final solution is decided.
 
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The bird will still cover the caribbean.

Only the Northern Islands of the Caribbean and Norther Mexico are projected to be in the SES1 Ku-band footprint and require larger dish size.

Southern Mexico, Central America (to Hondurus), the Southern Caribbean and Northern coast of South America are currently in the AMC4 KU band Northern Beam footprint and are expected to no longer be serviced by SES1. The reduction of the Southern part of the footprint is projected to be significant.
 
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Well according to this.....
Code:
[URL="http://www.orbital.com/SatellitesSpace/Communications/AMC5R/"]SES-1, -2 & -3[/URL]
It will be conus for the caribbean.
 
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Worked up the embeds for SES-1. C band and KU. It also has a 17Ghz beam not included since they say they will not be using it at this location.

Does that mean they will be moving SES-1 to some other location in the future so they can use the 17 Ghz frequencies?
 
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Does that mean they will be moving SES-1 to some other location in the future so they can use the 17 Ghz frequencies?

Good question. Both the Canadians and the US providers are licensed for 17Ghz at various slots so anything could happen.
 
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Well according to this.....
Code:
[URL="http://www.orbital.com/SatellitesSpace/Communications/AMC5R/"]SES-1, -2 & -3[/URL]
It will be conus for the caribbean.

According to your link it says it will will serve the Continental United States and portions of the Caribbean, as Brian noted.
 
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That doesnt make sense as AMC5 is KU only.

It makes sense, even tho I haven't seen a FCC filing for the move to 79W once SES-1 takes over.

AMC-4 suffers from power issues that transponders have had to be shut down. As power degradation continues, additional transponders are turned off. I bet most stuff is coming from co-located AMC-2 since AMC-2 is still healthy and is taking over some of the heavy lift from AMC-4.

If SES World Skies follows through with a AMC-4 move to 79W, it will provide partial service for both AMC-5 (which is going to be replaced by the end of the year if all goes well) and the c-band bird at 79W.
 
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AMC2 was moved into position to load balance services with AMC4 last year. After unsuccessful KU-Band testing AMC2 assumed only 2 C-Band transponders and a few data KU-band services from AMC4.

AMC4 continues to carry the majority of services at the 101W position.
 
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