Anyone have an OLED?

harshness

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... and better processing with poor content, other than that its a wash.
Given the content that most have to suffer for the bulk of their viewing (most of it nowhere near Blu-ray quality), competent processing is surely a priority for many.
 
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Its not like the LG processing is bad though... And I disgaree with Sony's HDR tone mapping choice once nits exceed its ability, where the LG dims the screen and holds detail up to 2000 nits on test patterns, the Sony just clips everything. There is a part in B v S where there is electricity near Bruce Wayne, on the LG the image dims some but all the detail is there, the Sony image is brighter, but his white shirt clips detail. Id prefer to watch HDR in a dark room and have the detail.

Here is a good post from a Calman employee, who has plenty of experience. People are complaining why the LED's were not put into hyperdrive mode to win the bright room contest. One hint, accuracy:

WiFi-Spy;54258937 said:
I have not seen any of the scores but what I think the judges responded to was the LG had slightly more punch and saturation in HDR mode that more closely matched the BVM-X300. I think the main difference on a technical level was a different color volume (tone + gamut) mapping strategy. Once again there is no standard for tone mapping, each manufacturer is rolling their own.

Both of these OLED TVs are incredible, and the fact that they were that close to the $30K BVM-X300 mastering display is remarkable. Either one of them would have won last years shootout.

With regards to the Z9D, it may have won the bright room category, if the TVs were allowed to be put into their HDR "bright room" mode. This would've been wildly inaccurate calibration wise, but may have allowed the Z9D and Samsung Q9 to flex their nits advantage, by pushing up the Average APL of the content.
 
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Have the Sony OLED and high end LCD received the DV update?
 
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Alas, not everyone can retire from family life to their dedicated home theater to watch movies.
 
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How would you say things have changed as far as improvements and price points compared to when this thread started?
 
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Much cheaper when sales go on, like summer, Nov and Jan/Feb.

Better near black and overall image uniformity

HDR and WCG have improved every year

Web OS is great for streaming Amazon, UHD, Netflix (Dolby Vision)

Much brighter in 2017 than 2015

Calibration controls have been improved
 
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Sony is def better at video processing than LG, but the cost difference is real too.
Hopefully there will be fewer compromises as time goes by and the choices will be more about quality and convenience than whether or not a TV will support this or that standard and what it makes of poor quality content (or, particularly problematic of late, content that is shot to look "poor").
 
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Just watched some Power Ranger (blu-ray) in Dolby Vision, pretty surprising how good the stock mode looks because you cant make much adjustment on the 2016, you have DV Dark and DV Bright. it looks more natural than HDR10, maybe, but seems to have less pop. Maybe because the OLED is at max light in HDR mode. I have to think being handled frame by frame instead of a static nit targer there is more potential here.
 
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Well, I am done with the back and forth routine. Gonna pull the trigger in the next 7-14 days on a 65" C7, and get it calibrated for SDR, HDR10 and DV before it ships from Value Electronics. They have added DV cal to the list of options now for the LG's, and I am assuming for the Sony's once they get the update.

This is good because my E6 has a great soundbar built it, and I will put it in a second room where I dont have any speakers.

Got a good explanation on the DV cal process. The sets look pretty good as is because the file for the DV engine is based off measured factory averages. What you do know, with the new version of Calman and the 2017 LG OLED is, take measurements for your specific panel, and then update the engine so instead of using factory averages, it is using the exact data from your panel in the DV mapping engine. All that is left after that is enjoy DV!
 
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Are any companies updating firmware after a couple of years have passed?
 
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New OLED on the scene. LG has released a B7A, which is different from the B7P that is at Costco and Sams. The B7P is basically a C7 for membership stores and pricing is similar.

The B7A is starting to become available and runs several hundred less than the C7. They left off the Atmos ability and extra speaker design in the tv (BS anyways if you ask me), so the have some cost reduction in that and no Atmos fee. Really confusing, but the B7A will offer even better pricing for people wanting to go OLED.
 

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