Actually I think my topic ran it's course....I just kept moving the dish around and finally got all 3 satellites (took several hours!)! I also replaced the original coax cable with RG-11 coax cable and the signal strength went up some. So thanks to all of you for all the help and advice!!Here at Satelliteguys threads often go off on tangents to parts unknown. It's not really hijacking, more like expanding. Feel free to bring us back on topic.