AT&T and TPG finally close their sale.

[Juan]

Link to where it says AT&T make a profit, please.

Your lost and confused..I said drv itself was profitable...if you notice..directv stopped accepting satellite customers in select markets..d* transition from being a satellite based service to a internet based service is well under way....ATT made money..just not as much as they thought they would

 

[Bruce]

Your lost and confused..I said drv itself was profitable...if you notice..directv stopped accepting satellite customers in select markets..d* transition from being a satellite based service to a internet based service is well under way....ATT made money..just not as much as they thought they would

Link please.

And I already provided a link that showed that AT&T lost money on DirecTV., there are many more if you wish me to provide them.

 

[Jimbo]

Your lost and confused..I said drv itself was profitable...if you notice..directv stopped accepting satellite customers in select markets..d* transition from being a satellite based service to a internet based service is well under way....ATT made money..just not as much as they thought they would

Confused ...
What you were saying was ok, Until you said the last sentence ....

"ATT made money..just not as much as they thought they would"

ATT didn't make money on this.

Now is the D* side of things "possibly still making money" thats possible.

 

[b4pjoe]

AT&T "made money" from DIRECTV subscriptions but not enough to cover what they paid and the debt they assumed so yes the subscription money was considered "profit" yearly because they took in more money than they spent on DIRECTV during that year but overall they lost billions because what they made from subscriptions and the sale of DIRECTV was far short of what they spent on purchasing DIRECTV and the debt they took on.

 

[Radioguy41]

unfortunately AT&T wireless out performs verizon in my area

Doesn't everyone?

 

[John2021]

Doesn't everyone?

yes!!! since verizon started there 5G network it's been utter crap!!! there LTE network was amazing csr's now suck to

 

[Juan]

Confused ...
What you were saying was ok, Until you said the last sentence ....

"ATT made money..just not as much as they thought they would"

ATT didn't make money on this.

Now is the D* side of things "possibly still making money" thats possible.

Yes they did...its hidden in the debt reduction..spinoffs are not just straight sell ofds

 

[Juan]

AT&T "made money" from DIRECTV subscriptions but not enough to cover what they paid and the debt they assumed so yes the subscription money was considered "profit" yearly because they took in more money than they spent on DIRECTV during that year but overall they lost billions because what they made from subscriptions and the sale of DIRECTV was far short of what they spent on purchasing DIRECTV and the debt they took on.

Not really

Att brought in 33 billion from directv in 2019 alone....

• In 2019, DirecTV contributed a large portion of AT&T's entertainment group revenue, which itself represented just over 22% of AT&T's total revenue of $142.4 billion.
• Although the exact profit figure is unavailable, analysts estimated that DirecTV contributed around $4 billion in operating profits to AT&T in 2019. This was based on comparing its operating margins to companies like DISH Network.

 

[b4pjoe]

Not really

Att brought in 33 billion from directv in 2019 alone....

No they did not.

Operating Profit Estimates: Based on estimates using comparisons to DISH Network's operating margins, DirecTV may have contributed around $4 billion in operating profits to AT&T in 2019.

 

[Jimbo]

Yes they did...its hidden in the debt reduction..spinoffs are not just straight sell ofds

Missed the Point ...
My Point was, D* may be making money (still even) (probably not much) .

 

[Tom Speer]

yea it said the beginning of this year!!! i will have to look again!!! though i think there recycling the guts and throwing them in a new plastic case wich makes sense

If they actually were running short of a specific model, They may have ordered a new production run from the company that manufactures them. DirecTV itself has no production facilities. That is not the same thing as designing and contracting for a whole new model. There are two manufacturers for the HS17 Genie server who designed and built them to DIRECTV's specification. They are different enough in internal components to require different drivers for those components.

 

[John2021]

Your lost and confused..I said drv itself was profitable...if you notice..directv stopped accepting satellite customers in select markets..d* transition from being a satellite based service to a internet based service is well under way....ATT made money..just not as much as they thought they would

yea but ATT had there asses handed to them on the way with all of the money they lost

 

[Juan]

Missed the Point ...
My Point was, D* may be making money (still even) (probably not much) .

You don't get it...you would have a very nice billionaire life off of what directv is still making...just not what it once was

 

[Juan]

You don't get it...you would have a very nice billionaire life off of what directv is still making...just not what it once was

Att made 2.8 billion in PROFIT from directv in 2024
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In 2024, AT&T's equity in net income from the DIRECTV investment, after adjustments, was $2.8 billion. This represents AT&T's share of the profits from DIRECTV, which was still partially owned by AT&T in 2024. In September 2024, AT&T sold its remaining 70% stake in DIRECTV to TPG Inc. for $7.6 billion.

 

[b4pjoe]

Att made 2.8 billion in PROFIT from directv in 2024

Pennies compared to what they paid for it at the start. It was a disaster for AT&T.

AT&T initially acquired DirecTV in 2015 for $48.5 billion in cash, plus the assumption of $18.6 billion in debt, totaling $67.1 billion.

 

[Bruce]

Pennies compared to what they paid for it at the start. It was a disaster for AT&T.

That is what you and I ( and it was even in one of his posts) keep telling him.

Even if DirecTV made $4 Billion in profits in all of the 10 years AT&T owned it ( and we know it has been under 3 billion the last few years), that is still only $40 Billion, that means $27 Billion was lost.

And I know that was extremely simple math, it is more complicated than that, but every link/news/other sites I have found, says the same thing, AT&T lost money, he has yet to provide a link that shows the opposite.

 

[b4pjoe]

That is what you and I ( and it was even in one of his posts) keep telling him.

Yeah it was a great deal for AT&T if you disregard how much money they paid and the debt assumed. <sarcasm>

 

[Juan]

Pennies compared to what they paid for it at the start. It was a disaster for AT&T.

Look at this way

You bought a taxi for 40k

You made 500k over 8 years

You sold the taxi after 8 years of sevice for 10k

Some would call that a 30k loss on the taxi while in reality you made 470k in profit

It's not what att bought and sold directv for

It's how much profit they made while owning it


Dish Network found a way to increase profits while losing customers ( 5g a different story)

Att copied them

 

[b4pjoe]

Look at this way

You bought a taxi for 40k

You made 500k over 8 years

You sold the taxi after 8 years of sevice for 10k

Some would call that a 30k loss on the taxi while in reality you made 470k in profit

It's not what att bought and sold directv for

It's how much profit they made while owning it


Dish Network found a way to increase profits while losing customers ( 5g a different story)

Att copied them

Your math is pretty bad. When you spend more than you make you do not have any profit. Just deficit.

 

[Bruce]

Look at this way

You bought a taxi for 40k

You made 500k over 8 years

You sold the taxi after 8 years of sevice for 10k

Some would call that a 30k loss on the taxi while in reality you made 470k in profit

What about cost of doing business, maintenance, gasoline for two examples.

As someone with a Business Administration Degree, your examples are incredibly *******.

It's not what att bought and sold directv for

It's how much profit they made while owning it

Just find one link that shows AT&T made a profit from their purchase of DirecTV.

Dish Network found a way to increase profits while losing customers ( 5g a different story)

Profits have been going down the last couple of years for Dish.

Yes, they keep raising prices to keep profits higher, but now, even more people are leaving, expected to now have under 5 Million Satellite subscribers with the upcoming 2nd quarter report, from a high of 14 Million years ago.

Att copied them

Another example why AT&T purchase of DirecTV was a disaster-

AT&T eats a $15.5 billion impairment charge as DirecTV debacle continues

AT&T lost 617,000 Premium TV customers in Q4 and 3 million in the calendar year.

arstechnica.com