Found out today charter spectrum is selling apple 4k tv streaming box. You are no longer required to have at least one spectrum cable box on your account. You can use the apple tv as your cable box. So no more cable box fees. The apple tv is being sold for $179 and can be paid for over 24 months for $7.50/month interest free. Also was told the cloud dvr feature will be showing up around may of 2019(will have to wait and see).