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Chicago Tribune Article on HDTV without DISH consideration

RoboChgo

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I live in Chicago. I have a Sony WEGA 60" rear projection LCD HDTV and I love it. Got it from ABT 3 or so years ago. I pay TWO cable/SAT bills a month. I have DISH Silver + Center Ice + a VIP622 just for my glorious Sony. I WAS a VOOM customer and thats THEEEE reason I came to DISH. I want the MOST HD for my glorious Sony .. plus I really enjoy RAVE and Equator.... I Had COMCAST which WAS Chicago At&T cable and in a nutshell that is the worse Ghetto company on the planet. Bad signal and thug moron installers. I know being the son of an Electriction and being free labor for my dad in the summers how to put cable in and they are all losers, hence my coming over to WOW. Other people I know around here that have comcast have to get thier DVR replaced every 3 months or so.. and yeah all thier stuff on thier drives are gone... ANYWAY yes I hate Comcast.

SOOOO I read this article in the Chicago Tribune yesterday The stuff between the -------- is what gets me!


Comcast has like 10 HD channels and DISH has 30 and in TWO YEARS OF RESEARCH and SEVEN PRECENT OF YOUR LIFE YOU CANNOT FIND THIS OUT???

So for many people shopping for HDTV's and a service this Christmas, this "TECH" reporter more or less keeps DISH out of the picture.

I am going to EMAIL him and try to call his "Show" on the radio and explain if you really want HD, DISH is the place.(Even with HDLITE.. yeah I hate it too)
 
Many in the press present only a small slice of the real story. Complain to the editor if that makes you feel better.
 
Two years of research and the author writes this gem:


Where to begin with this?
 
What a f**king idiot, he does all this research to find the perfect Television, yet decides to go with Cable.

I can see him switching from Directv to Cable, because the HD programming is about the same within a few channels, but not to even consider DISH Network is just plain dumb.

Its like the customers I deal with who spend $5,000 on a good television but refuse to spend a few hundred dollars on an HD Satellite receiver, and take the Standard Definition receiver for FREE instead.

Other than that, whats the point of doing research these days. Its like buying a computer, whatever you buy today, something bigger, better and cheaper will be available tomorrow. You can't win!
 
See any connection to declining sales of newspapers?
 
See any connection to declining sales of newspapers?

Not sure about that, however isn't the Trib still owned by Tribune Media? They are in a big contract negotiation for their digital OTA stations in many markets. The Sacramento FOX affiliate, which was being uplinked, was removed today, signalling that contract talks regarding the digital OTA channels isn't going good.

Could this be an overtly biased article which is intentionally trying to downplay the availability of Dish Network?
 

The article states he wanted the best picture(not HDLite), not the most HD channels..

My chicago comcast service isn't the best, but they did just add a lot of HD On demand, and the channels I have aren't in HDLite. I really did miss not having Rave from Voom, but then MHD was added to comcast a few months ago which has the same stuff.

If dish wasn't HDLite I'd be a dish subscriber..
 
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I actually got a response to my first e-mail calling him on the 720p issue. He said I was right, and I'm not the only one to tell him.

It will be interesting to see if he responds back to this item:
It's also widely discussed online that DirecTV compresses its HD signal for easier, faster transmission through the air.

This violates the laws of physics. The DirecTV signal (and the E* signal) travels at a constant velocity of propogation. The compression is orthogonal (ie unrelated) to the transmission. No polite way to put it, he screwed the pooch on this one.

I sent a much longer response than that.

I also called him on this:
This was interesting because the Sony displayed a 1080p resolution (about 2 million pixels on the screen, the highest resolution available), while the Panasonic we bought only offered a 1080i resolution (about 1 million pixels).

He doesn't understand the difference between input scan rates and a panel resolution. Or if he does, he didn't explain it well to his readers.

I asked for the e-mail address of his editor at the Tribune. He really blew it on this article.

Cheers,
 
Yeah sad to say but most folks don't know what their buying. Anyway the Dish Rocks and blows everyone else out of the water. Its just that most folks don't know that and when it comes to HD Dish is always the way to go. There is too many sales folks that don't give out the right information and folks get stuck paying for a TV with hardily any HD. Then when they found out about how Dish is the HD Leader but their stuck in a contract with Direct or another carrier. Its always best to find out the information for yourself. Due to just because they sell the stuff does not mean they know what their talking about.
 
Poke:

I'm not going to get into an argument about who has the most HD. For all we know that could change sometime next year. He blew some of his basic technical points which is odd for someone who is supposed to be writing tech articles in a top newspaper.

Cheers,
 
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Well there is nothing to argue about. Dish has the most HD Channels right now which will not change unless Direct plans on adding about 20 some channels of HD next year. From what I can tell all Direct is adding is more locals in HD not national HD channels. Which would still only give Direct 9-10 Channels is all so unless Direct gets all the Voom channels plus HGTVHD and FoodHD,NGHD,NFLHD so forth. They will still have the same amount of HD content. So overall you get less with Direct or Comcast,Cox whoever than what you get with Dish. So it's not Rocket Science just compare the HD Lineup is all you half to so speaks for itself.
 
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Strange....I've got a Panasonic Plasma 1080i HDTV sitting in my living room right now (don't care what Circuit City says.....).
 
Strange....I've got a Panasonic Plasma 1080i HDTV sitting in my living room right now (don't care what Circuit City says.....).

No you don't.

You are confusing an accepted input scan rate with the native panel resolution just as the author of the article did.

The native panel resolution is WXGA @ 1366x768.

But you aren't writing technology articles for one of the top newspapers in the country.
 
Poke:

Leaving HD channel count aside, the guy blew it on several fundamental technical points. And this was after supposedly having two years of research under his belt.

Gotta love it ;-)