Ciel 2 Tracking

Mike_H · Feb 2, 2009

jacmyoung said:
So the 16 TPs will be totally wasted?

Perhaps clarification... It is more likely the Canadian transponders will never be used for US Dish Network Programming. That doesn't mean that Echostar can't lease the capacity to a Canadian company to use for their own broadcasts.

SpeedTrap47 · Feb 2, 2009

Mike_H said:
Perhaps clarification... It is more likely the Canadian transponders will never be used for US Dish Network Programming. That doesn't mean that Echostar can't lease the capacity to a Canadian company to use for their own broadcasts.

Its a Canadian SAT in a CANADIAN orbital Slot its ECHO doing the leasing

mhowie · Feb 2, 2009

Aqualung812 said:
Same here for Indianapolis. I've been fooled too many times.

We've been fooled (misled?) for nearly two years now...or is it two-plus years- I've lost count.

jacmyoung · Feb 3, 2009

SpeedTrap47 said:
Its a Canadian SAT in a CANADIAN orbital Slot its ECHO doing the leasing

We all knew that.

jacmyoung · Feb 3, 2009

Mike_H said:
Perhaps clarification... It is more likely the Canadian transponders will never be used for US Dish Network Programming. That doesn't mean that Echostar can't lease the capacity to a Canadian company to use for their own broadcasts.

For all practical purpose, it will be used for services in the US, not in Canada?

vtjman · Feb 3, 2009

Could you please explain what the heck you are talking about here in normal person speak?

Smith said:

How? There is current NIT for 129W - see those "4x16" TIDs ?

Code:

  401, 1,129.0W,12224000,00200000,5/6,R ,
  402, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  403, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  404, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  405, 5,129.0W,12282320,00200000,5/6,R ,
  406, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  407, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  408, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  409, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  410,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  411,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  412,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  413,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  414,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  416,16,129.0W,12442700,00200000,5/6,L ,
  417,17,129.0W,12457280,00200000,5/6,R ,
  418,18,129.0W,12471860,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  419,19,129.0W,12486440,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  421,21,129.0W,12515600,00200000,5/6,R ,
  422,22,129.0W,12530180,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  423,23,129.0W,12544760,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  427,27,129.0W,12603080,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  428,28,129.0W,12617660,00200000,5/6,L ,
  430,30,129.0W,12646820,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,
  431,31,129.0W,12661400,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,
  432,32,129.0W,12675980,00200000,5/6,L ,
 4001, 1,129.0W,12224000,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<65,0,0>
 4002, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<66,0,0>
 4003, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<67,0,0>
 4004, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<68,0,0>
 4005, 5,129.0W,12282320,00200000,7/8,R ,<69,0,0>
 4006, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<70,0,0>
 4007, 7,129.0W,12311480,00200000,7/8,R ,<71,0,0>
 4008, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4009, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<73,0,0>
 4010,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4011,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<75,0,0>
 4012,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<76,0,0>
 4013,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<77,0,0>
 4014,14,129.0W,12413540,00200000,7/8,L ,<78,0,0>
 4015,15,129.0W,12428120,00200000,7/8,R ,<79,0,0>
 4016,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>
 4101, 1,129.0W,12224000,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<65,0,0>
 4102, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<66,0,0>
 4103, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<67,0,0>
 4104, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<68,0,0>
 4105, 5,129.0W,12282320,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<69,0,0>
 4106, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<70,0,0>
 4107, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<71,0,0>
 4108, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4109, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<73,0,0>
 4110,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4111,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<75,0,0>
 4112,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<76,0,0>
 4113,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<77,0,0>
 4114,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<78,0,0>
 4115,15,129.0W,12428120,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<79,0,0>
 4116,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>
 4172, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<66,0,0>
 4173, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<67,0,0>
 4174, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<68,0,0>
 4175, 5,129.0W,12282320,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<69,0,0>
 4176, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<70,0,0>
 4177, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<71,0,0>
 4178, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4179, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<73,0,0>
 4180,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4181,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<75,0,0>
 4182,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<76,0,0>
 4183,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<77,0,0>
 4184,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<78,0,0>
 4185,15,129.0W,12428120,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<79,0,0>
 4186,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>
 4201, 1,129.0W,12224000,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<65,0,0>
 4202, 2,129.0W,12238580,00200000,5/6,L ,<66,0,0>
 4203, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<67,0,0>
 4204, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<68,0,0>
 4205, 5,129.0W,12282320,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<69,0,0>
 4206, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<70,0,0>
 4207, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<71,0,0>
 4208, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4209, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<73,0,0>
 4210,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4212,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<76,0,0>
 4213,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<77,0,0>
 4214,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<78,0,0>
 4215,15,129.0W,12428120,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<79,0,0>
 4216,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>
 4301, 1,129.0W,12224000,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<65,0,0>
 4302, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<66,0,0>
 4303, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<67,0,0>
 4304, 4,129.0W,12267740,00200000,7/8,L ,<68,0,0>
 4305, 5,129.0W,12282320,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<69,0,0>
 4306, 6,129.0W,12296900,00200000,7/8,L ,<70,0,0>
 4307, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<71,0,0>
 4308, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4309, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<73,0,0>
 4310,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4311,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<75,0,0>
 4312,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<76,0,0>
 4313,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<77,0,0>
 4314,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<78,0,0>
 4315,15,129.0W,12428120,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<79,0,0>
 4316,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>
 4371, 1,129.0W,12224000,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<65,0,0>
 4372, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<66,0,0>
 4373, 3,129.0W,12253160,00200000,7/8,R ,<67,0,0>
 4374, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<68,0,0>
 4375, 5,129.0W,12282320,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<69,0,0>
 4376, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<70,0,0>
 4377, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<71,0,0>
 4378, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4379, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<73,0,0>
 4380,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4381,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<75,0,0>
 4382,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<76,0,0>
 4383,13,129.0W,12398960,00200000,7/8,R ,<77,0,0>
 4384,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<78,0,0>
 4385,15,129.0W,12428120,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<79,0,0>
 4386,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>
 4401, 1,129.0W,12224000,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<65,0,0>
 4402, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<66,0,0>
 4403, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<67,0,0>
 4404, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<68,0,0>
 4405, 5,129.0W,12282320,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<69,0,0>
 4406, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<70,0,0>
 4407, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<71,0,0>
 4408, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4409, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<73,0,0>
 4410,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4411,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<75,0,0>
 4412,12,129.0W,12384380,00200000,7/8,L ,<76,0,0>
 4413,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<77,0,0>
 4414,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<78,0,0>
 4415,15,129.0W,12428120,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<79,0,0>
 4416,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>
 4501, 1,129.0W,12224000,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<65,0,0>
 4502, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<66,0,0>
 4503, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<67,0,0>
 4504, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<68,0,0>
 4505, 5,129.0W,12282320,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<69,0,0>
 4506, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<70,0,0>
 4507, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<71,0,0>
 4508, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4509, 9,129.0W,12340640,00200000,7/8,R ,<73,0,0>
 4510,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4511,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<75,0,0>
 4512,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<76,0,0>
 4513,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<77,0,0>
 4514,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<78,0,0>
 4515,15,129.0W,12428120,00200000,5/6,R ,<79,0,0>
 4516,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>
 4572, 2,129.0W,12238580,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<66,0,0>
 4573, 3,129.0W,12253160,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<67,0,0>
 4574, 4,129.0W,12267740,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<68,0,0>
 4575, 5,129.0W,12282320,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<69,0,0>
 4576, 6,129.0W,12296900,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<70,0,0>
 4577, 7,129.0W,12311480,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<71,0,0>
 4578, 8,129.0W,12326060,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<72,0,0>
 4579, 9,129.0W,12340640,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<73,0,0>
 4580,10,129.0W,12355220,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<74,0,0>
 4581,11,129.0W,12369800,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<75,0,0>
 4582,12,129.0W,12384380,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<76,0,0>
 4583,13,129.0W,12398960,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<77,0,0>
 4584,14,129.0W,12413540,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<78,0,0>
 4585,15,129.0W,12428120,00215000,2/3,R,8PSK,<79,0,0>
 4586,16,129.0W,12442700,00215000,2/3,L,8PSK,<80,0,0>

digiblur · Feb 3, 2009

And that's why the uplink reports are not done by P Smith

Smith P. · Feb 3, 2009

vtjman said:
Could you please explain what the heck you are talking about here in normal person speak?

That was a point about using Ciel-2 tp16 by Dish.

Smith P. · Feb 3, 2009

Yeah, that's why it named _uplink_ reports and why those reports missing TID changes,

JohnH · Feb 3, 2009

Smith said:
Yeah, that's why it named _uplink_ reports and why those reports missing TID changes,

You know, you should try reading the threads sometime. You might have missed something.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1662768-post5.html

Smith P. · Feb 3, 2009

Just for you curiosity - try to check those FEC values in Dish tables, you'll be surprised.

MoPoster2 · Feb 3, 2009

digiblur said:
And that's why the uplink reports are not done by P Smith

Yep! Thanks to you Digiblur we get an easy to read, timely report on the Uplink thread.
All of the background data and graphs (from another Smith thread) tell me nothing I'm interested in.
Dish will make channels available when they are ready. That is the information I want to see in an easy to understand format like yours. Thanks for all your hard work Digi!

JohnH · Feb 3, 2009

Smith said:
Just for you curiosity - try to check those FEC values in Dish tables, you'll be surprised.

Nope. There were changes in later activity which were also reported.

SpaethCo · Feb 3, 2009

digiblur said:
And that's why the uplink reports are not done by P Smith

I think the reports you put together accomplish a key factor of effective communication: know your target audience.

kstuart · Feb 3, 2009

" It is happening again... "

Lots of 129 channels are now OFF AIR !

kenny9966 · Feb 3, 2009

yes kstuart and i see alll transponders on 129 and seeing weird scanning for satellite pop ups transponders 16-32 are being odd. It has begun.

ckinninger · Feb 3, 2009

hmmm... low transponders 14,15,16 no signal. 17 has signal. good signs since i should not get any spots.

kenny9966 · Feb 3, 2009

yes ckinn crazy ass signals or dead on lots.

HIFI · Feb 3, 2009

several transponders are now reading in the 70's on modified scale

kenny9966 · Feb 3, 2009

OMG I LOVE YOU DISH!!!!!! Ciel 2 is active im getting 77 on 129 transponder 17 i think. ciel 2 is alive!!!!!!!!!

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