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Just for the record. It appears that nobody from DISH Network was talked to for this article and that it is believed that the article was fueld by DISNEY/ESPN themselves to try getting DISH to cave in to their pricing and cause an uprising of angry customers again with the hopes that DISH caves in.
 
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Whether people want to believe it or not, ESPN is the "leader in sports" in the US.... Personally I cannot stand ESPN, but like some of posters earlier said, since ESPN has MNF and countless amounts of Sports that I cannot get anywhere else, I am driven to watch it... There is nothing that comes even close to the amount of sports (both professional and collegiate) that ESPN offers. Losing ESPN would be devastating to the common sports fan and would force many to switch. It would be a horrible decision for Charlie.

Why we all are thinking that Dish will just lose subs. this can be spin both way....Lower price will make non sports fans consider Dish & will switch to Dish.
 
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When do Direct and Dish current contracts with ESPN end? If Direct comes to a new agreement before Dish it will put pressure on dish to do the same. I would love to see all the ESPN channels in the sports pack but i doubt that would ever happen. ESPN wants their main 2 channels to be seen by the highest possible viewers.
 
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When do Direct and Dish current contracts with ESPN end? If Direct comes to a new agreement before Dish it will put pressure on dish to do the same. I would love to see all the ESPN channels in the sports pack but i doubt that would ever happen. ESPN wants their main 2 channels to be seen by the highest possible viewers.

Who knows... if they increase the price enough they might be able to give out free doobies to all ESPN subscribers.
 
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Just for the record. It appears that nobody from DISH Network was talked to for this article and that it is believed that the article was fueld by DISNEY/ESPN themselves to try getting DISH to cave in to their pricing and cause an uprising of angry customers again with the hopes that DISH caves in.
But Disney/ESPN has no corporate connection to the New York Post.
 
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Disney just seems to be jerks here lately... With the whole double price for SD/HD, then trying to sue Dish because they offered Starz free & they showed Disney movies? Geeze louise!! If that pans out I see all the movie studios suing HBO, Starz and Showtime for offering "Free Preview" weekends! Too many greedy companies & too many *cough* lawyers willing to support :(

I have a 20mo old little girl who gets more enjoyment from "Baby First TV" & PBS Kids than she does the "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse"

My $0.02...
 
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Just for the record. It appears that nobody from DISH Network was talked to for this article and that it is believed that the article was fueld by DISNEY/ESPN themselves to try getting DISH to cave in to their pricing and cause an uprising of angry customers again with the hopes that DISH caves in.
You mean the NY Post printed a bull article? Not the Newscorp owned media company. *stunned*

There is one thing in the article that is true. Corporations seem to have no problem sluffing off their ridiculous bidded prices for entertainment on their customers. How much is paid for the NBA, NFL, MLB, World Cup, Olympics, etc...? These large sums then get sluffed off onto us because we usually don't have a choice if we want to watch the programming. It's that or nothing at all. So we pay the higher fees with the cable/sat company or pay via the ridiculous amount of commercials that are shown.

If they paid less for the content, they wouldn't need to have the customers pay as much to see it. It really is a ridiculous situation.
 
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ESPN is forcing every cable/sat sub in the country to subsidize out of control salaries in professional sports. If the MNFL games are worth 15 BILLION dollars, then they certainly can make it up in the ad revenue that it generates. That's how it would have worked if ABC had the games. Instead, they offer up the billions, divide the cost by the number of cable/sat subs, and force that price on everyone. Somewhere along the line, somebody does need to take a stand. Eventually, the prices are going to reach a breaking point.

Currently, the DBacks are in first place and certainly headed to the playoffs. The broadcasters constatntly complain about the lack of attendance. I was looking to go to the Giants/DBacks game in a couple of weeks. To sit in decent seats along the first base side, 30 rows up, a ticket costs $140. Wonder why they can't fill the stadium?
 
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I guess what it all comes down to is ESPN just signed a new 15 billion dollar deal with the NFL yesterday... guess who is going to pay the majority of that $15 billion?

It dont matter if you have DISH Network or Budweiser beer, you are paying that bill somehow.
 
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Just for the record. It appears that nobody from DISH Network was talked to for this article and that it is believed that the article was fueld by DISNEY/ESPN themselves to try getting DISH to cave in to their pricing and cause an uprising of angry customers again with the hopes that DISH caves in.

Scott, This is true. I was just speaking with a Dish Network supervisor and he had no clue about this article until I told him about it.
 
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I guess what it all comes down to is ESPN just signed a new 15 billion dollar deal with the NFL yesterday... guess who is going to pay the majority of that $15 billion?

It dont matter if you have DISH Network or Budweiser beer, you are paying that bill somehow.

I'm sure this is oversimplified, but:

14M subs * $5 per month * 12 months = $840M per year from Dish

How much more does ESPN want to increase before they risk losing a significant amount like that??

Plus, wouldn't losing all those eyeballs affect the advertising rates they could get??
 
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I guess what it all comes down to is ESPN just signed a new 15 billion dollar deal with the NFL yesterday... guess who is going to pay the majority of that $15 billion?

It dont matter if you have DISH Network or Budweiser beer, you are paying that bill somehow.
Whether you watch the game or not! I'm a Patriots fan and I still had issues wanting to stay up 1) that late, 2) to watch that many commercials, 3) in a game that really doesn't mean squat. (Disenchanted Pats fan tired of great season, bad playoff performance)

Monday Night Football is only "worth" that much money if they gouge advertisers and subscribers.
 
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I have an idea: How about Dish dig into it's billion dollar a year profit margin to pay the 10 extra cents a subscriber it would take to renew the nation's most popular cable sports channel? Radical notion, I know.

Second to channel disputes like this one, one of the things I'm sickest of hearing about when it comes to future Dish programming changes is the idea that sports could be a premium add-on package. For many of us, the primary reason we have a paid television provider in the first place is sports. I would venture to guess that sports was the big driver of making cable/satellite almost a standard utility type deal in this country instead of a niche market. How about making all those children's and movie channel channels their own premium package instead? I don't think I have ever watched the Disney Channel in my entire adult life. I don't watch Lifetime, or Oxygen, or Oprah either. If they really feel they need to separate sports channels out, they should give people the option to subscribe only to those, instead of forcing sports fans to subsidize every other channel and then pay a fee for the sports stuff on top of it.
 
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I guess what it all comes down to is ESPN just signed a new 15 billion dollar deal with the NFL yesterday...

And don't forget the deal they made with the University of Texas. Lots of money being talked about there too. Someone has to pay for all this stuff.

I could care less about all the talking heads at ESPN telling us why they think what they think. I just wanna see the game. I can't remember the last time I watched a "show" on ESPN. I get enough of their opinions during halftime (if I don't have it muted). But I watch games on ESPN all the time.

We'd all like to "just pay for the part we watch", but that's not very realistic.

As far as Disney is concerned, I don't like them to start with. But how can you boycott a product that is showing your favorite team. They have us by the stones... and they know it.

Cheers
 
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Plus, wouldn't losing all those eyeballs affect the advertising rates they could get??
That will never be mentioned publicly by a network. On the other hand, they will "spin" it to suggest they won't lose any viewers as they will all switch to another provider and the net loss will be ZERO.
 

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