I've always said that the joeys shouldn't be that much since they are just extensions of the Hopper. The high fee structure for these joeys and the $15.00 dvr fee make the hopper out of reach for many of DISH subs. My dad won't upgrade to a hopper because the fees are too high. I pay $36.00 a month in fees just for three joeys and the dvr fee in my house and my Flex pack programming is less than that. When the fees are higher than the programming , somethings wrong. considering the younger generation is moving everything online , shouldn't DISH be thinking of ways to attract them to their service , not push them away? After all the older generations that have had pay tv since the beginning , are literally dying out as time moves on. IF you don't attract a younger generation to replace them , you are looking at continued sub losses and as we saw last quarter reports , the profits dropped too.