Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

[Scott Greczkowski]

Here is the important part.

 

[zippyfrog]

Emerging from chapter 11 by the end of the 3rd quarter of 2026? So they are only going to be in bankruptcy for 3ish months?

 

[charlesrshell]

wonder if charlie will hang his spurs up after this

I hope not. I was hoping for a new Hopper 3 super deluxe v2.0 model was in the works!

 

[rvvaquero]

I was hoping for a new Hopper 3 super deluxe v2.0 model was in the works!

With a red recording light?

 

[navychop]

 

[telstar_1]

That's what I said about all this money coming in why would DISH need to file bankruptcy? But Echostar is the parent company and DISH is just a sub company under them. So dump the debt and it will make it a better chance for TTP buying up DISH and SLING TV now with no debt or reduced manageable debt load. Remember that was the hold up before when the debt levels were attached and the stock holders didn't want to take a hair cut on their stock values if they changed to TPP.

I asked the Google A.I. the other day whether DISH would end up with DIRECTV and it said that most likely TPP who owns DIRECTV, will end up buying the two video portions of DISH/Sling TV and then they will also buy the two Satellites they just added for 110/119 that will last them till 2040.

They would end up using the Hopper receivers and do away with any legacy receivers DISH has. Combine the A.I. search feature from the Genie with the hopper. Repoint all the Directv customers to these two satellites because their existing satellites are near the end of their useful life. Then they will eventually put the Directv name on all the receivers in the future, retiring the DISH name.

Charlie Ergen is no longer in the Video business. They predicted this deal would happen in 2027 by years end. TPP has to finish up their deal with ATT to buy up all of DIRECTV this year.

Oh, no! My 722!

 

[ewindowman]

Us long time dish subscribers watched it grow from thousands to millions and now back again I never thought they would go bankrupt. If Elon does want them he probably has a plan to get them before they exit bankruptcy or shortly after. This is going to hurt the company even further. Most people will hear bankruptcy and drop the service or not even sign up. It's been a fun ride.

 

[Bruce]

Us long time dish subscribers watched it grow from thousands to millions and now back again I never thought they would go bankrupt. If Elon does want them he probably has a plan to get them before they exit bankruptcy or shortly after.

Again, why would he want Dish TV, maybe Echostar, he has purchased the spectrum that he coveted, once the government clears the purchase, he will move on.

This is going to hurt the company even further. Most people will hear bankruptcy and drop the service or not even sign up. It's been a fun ride.

Yep, more will leave because of that, what new subscriber would become a customer with a company that has the bankruptcy tag hooked to it….not many.

Everyone should remember the Bally/FanDuel RSNs, thought they were set after they left Chapter 11, made it a year after, now about to totally shut down.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Having gone through Bankruptcy myself, I know the are FAR from the end. This will give them all kinds of new opportunities.

 

[Arctic_fox]

I hope not. I was hoping for a new Hopper 3 super deluxe v2.0 model was in the works!

there was a hopper 4 with more memory and a bigger m.2 drive instead of the HDD it has now. they never did mention how many tuners it would have. but that will never happen!

 

[Arctic_fox]

With a red recording light?

screw the redlight how bout one that don't do the nightly reboots

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

there was a hopper 4 with more memory and a bigger m.2 drive instead of the HDD it has now. they never did mention how many tuners it would have. but that will never happen!

Why do you need more memory for? And what difference would a SSD make as you wouldn't notice any difference in speed.

If we saw a Hopper 4 it would be an entirely Android based system so basically a Hopper plus with the tuners built in.

I do wish the hopper could do all audio and video formats so I could play all my movies in their original format from my plex server. But that's all I can think of. The Hopper 3 is almost perfect now.

 

[renjy651]

Us long time dish subscribers watched it grow from thousands to millions and now back again I never thought they would go bankrupt. If Elon does want them he probably has a plan to get them before they exit bankruptcy or shortly after. This is going to hurt the company even further. Most people will hear bankruptcy and drop the service or not even sign up. It's been a fun ride.

Any chance Youtube will buy dishnetwork? It will be good for streming Youtube TV and using Dish network for satellite TV. Also hotels and bars can get NFL sunday ticket via Dishnetwork. Merger with Directv is not a good choice. They are not ordering any new satellites?

 

[Jimbo]

Any chance Youtube will buy dishnetwork? It will be good for streming Youtube TV and using Dish network for satellite TV. Also hotels and bars can get NFL sunday ticket via Dishnetwork. Merger with Directv is not a good choice. They are not ordering any new satellites?

Again ...
Why would (who ever) buy Dish at this point ?
You tube doesn't Need Dish for anything I can think of.

Can you get NFL ST on Dish now ???
I don't know how they would allow that if the didn't want D* to have it.
I know D* didn't really want it, in the end.

 

[meStevo]

Any chance Youtube will buy dishnetwork? It will be good for streming Youtube TV and using Dish network for satellite TV. Also hotels and bars can get NFL sunday ticket via Dishnetwork. Merger with Directv is not a good choice. They are not ordering any new satellites?

There isn't a strong product or technology reason for YTTV specifically to buy DISH. The pieces with real value (hospitality contracts, possibly some carriage agreements, tax benefit of acquiring distressed assets) would make it more of a convenient-if-cheap acquisition rather than a strategic opportunity.

SpaceX doesn't want the pay TV business, so them acquiring the rest doesn't make any sense either.

 

[renjy651]

Again ...
Why would (who ever) buy Dish at this point ?
You tube doesn't Need Dish for anything I can think of.

Can you get NFL ST on Dish now ???
I don't know howw they would allow that if the didn't want D* to have it.
I know D* didn't really want it, in the end.

You can only get NFL Redzone on Dish network. All the games(NFL Sunday ticket only on Youtube TV for residental homes. Hotels and bars still get it via Directv super expensive about $5000 or higher. For many Televisions in bars and hotels it is very hard for streaming that is what i herd.

 

[Bruce]

Any chance Youtube will buy dishnetwork?

Why would Google even want Dish?

You do know that YTTV has more than 12 Million subscribers and is now the #2 Provider, just behind Charter.

That is over 7 Million more subs than Dish, Google is doing just fine with YTTV.

It will be good for streming Youtube TV and using Dish network for satellite TV.

Less than 5 Million have Dish, that number is shrinking everyday.

Satellite TV is a dying service, broadband delivery is Live TV only hope.

Also hotels and bars can get NFL sunday ticket via Dishnetwork.

YTTV does not handle NFL ST for businesses, another company does.

Merger with Directv is not a good choice. They are not ordering any new satellites?

Does not matter if they order new satellites or not, TV via Satellite will be unprofitable in about 2-3 years, due to a loss of subscribers.

 

[Bruce]

You can only get NFL Redzone on Dish network. All the games(NFL Sunday ticket only on Youtube TV for residental homes. Hotels and bars still get it via Directv super expensive about $5000 or higher. For many Televisions in bars and hotels it is very hard for streaming that is what i heard.

DirecTV no longer has Sunday Ticket for Business, contract was up after last season.

 

[Jimbo]

You can only get NFL Redzone on Dish network. All the games(NFL Sunday ticket only on Youtube TV for residental homes. Hotels and bars still get it via Directv super expensive about $5000 or higher. For many Televisions in bars and hotels it is very hard for streaming that is what i herd.

I think D* is Out of it now, I believe its coming thru another company (can't remember the name ... Everpass maybe)

 

[nelson61]

.Filling for bankruptcy as individual person and company are not the same thing

But, they are very similar.

The judge will make it a priority to save jobs and make the business successful.

If that means bondholders take a hit, that is what will happen..