DISH HOPPER SPEC SHEETS

[UTMTech]

I'm sorry but this is starting to sound a lot like Math questions:" IF a train( hopper) left Chicago going 150 miles an hour and a train ( Joey) left New York the day before going 60 miles from hour , which train would get to Dallas first.

I was assured there would be no math here on this forum.

Hahaha ! I'm just trying to get a leg up on everyone else out there in the field if I already know the basics then I can skip the orientation training and go straight to putting these new recs in when they come out.

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[n0qcu]

Any idea if the ota module would be using 1 of the 3 tuners for recording? If it does, that could leave only 1 tuner for recording if you are using the Prime Time feature.

The OTA module is its OWN tuner. It will an additional tuner. You will be able to record OTA and have your 3 sat tuners to record and or watch.

 

[htpc_man]

Yes it's DLNA.

Nice that should work nicely with my media server running serviio

 

[UTMTech]

Since my last post was a huge glob I will try to turn it into sushi: observe.

If 6 joeys and 2 hoppers are all connected over a dish pro X duo node(Supports 2 hopper 6 joeys): how many simultaneous feeds can be active watching different satellite channels live? What about recording?
Or better put: How many tuners can be active at once?


When recording a program are you given the option to force the program to one of the joey assigned tuners?(Like the tv1 / tv2 option on the 722.)

Also are the joeys just front ends or do they have internal tuners with their own harddrives?

Also since the hopper is carrying both a sat feed and MoCA for the joeys picture and menu going back up the line to the node;Will it's frequency range be different than the joey. MoCA is up to 1500mhz but DPP for the sat feed requires cable rated up to 3000mhz.


And finally; per the summit I see that the joey was designed for dish pro plus as pictured with a 1000.2 but what about preexisting dish pro plus equipment? Will you be able to connect in sequence a dpp44 switch and a dish pro X solo node to run for example three 722s on the dpp44 and a hopper and 3 joeys on the solo node???

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[Scott Greczkowski]

Will work fine with your current DISH Pro Plus Equipment.

 

[Stargazer]

If you have four Joey's connected to the Hopper then can you watch all four networks at the same time during primetime anytime (each room watching a different network) and pause and resume anytime you would like in each of the rooms on the one tuner while the other two tuners are in use for recording other shows?

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

If you have four Joey's connected to the Hopper then can you watch all four networks at the same time during primetime anytime (each room watching a different network) and pause and resume anytime you would like in each of the rooms on the one tuner while the other two tuners are in use for recording other shows?

Yup

 

[sparc]

Also are the joeys just front ends or do they have internal tuners with their own harddrives?

if the joeys had tuners and hard drives, there would be little point in creating a centralized dvr system like the Hopper/Joey. Dish saves a fortune by putting all that in one centralized box... the hopper

There's a good comparison of the Hopper and Joey in the last spec sheet that Scott posted where it compares the two. Gives all the basic stats.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=73113&d=1326510110

 

[CubsWin]

It looks to me like the HIC would only be needed if the Hopper can't see your WiFi network OR if one of the Joeys isn't close to your router. This would enable you to make your internet connection to the MOCA network at your wired router. Does that make sense?

So does that mean you can either connect each device to a router/switch via ethernet or use MOCA through the HIC? Is there any functional reason for using one method over another?

 

[JM42]

So does that mean you can either connect each device to a router/switch via ethernet or use MOCA through the HIC? Is there any functional reason for using one method over another?

Scott has said the Joey ethernet port will not be enabled initially. Sounds like the HIC will be he only initial connectivity for the Joeys. We'll have to wait and see.

 

[GaryPen]

The answer is yes. It's in one of the many threads.

Thanks. With so many Hopper threads, and so many posts in each thread, it's hard to keep up.

If it will be available as an upgrade on day one, I will order it on day one. That demo video was very compelling. I will miss OTA until they get the USB adapter released. But, everything else about should make up for that, as long as it's temporary.

The only thing I can see keeping me from upgrading is if the upgrade cost and/or fee structure is ridiculously high, which is a distinct possibility.

 

[sparc]

Scott has said the Joey ethernet port will not be enabled initially. Sounds like the HIC will be he only initial connectivity for the Joeys. We'll have to wait and see.

is that the same for the Hopper as well? i can't just provide a hopper an ethernet connection instead of using the HIC?

 

[satjay]

It will be interesting to see what the fee breakdown is for the hopper and what each Joey is. I don't have dish, but loom forward to seeing what a per Joey fee may be? Hopefully soon

I don't have whole home with direct, but I think it's a three dollar additional fee?

The primetime anytime looks like a nice feature to have, may make you try some shows that otherwise you may have not given a try to

 

[dare2be]

is that the same for the Hopper as well? i can't just provide a hopper an ethernet connection instead of using the HIC?

I could be wrong, but I believe the HIC is used for when you can't or won't connect a wired ethernet line to your Hopper, and once the Joey ethernet port is active, you could hook up to the Joey's ethernet port and won't need the HIC anymore?

 

[gireesh]

For a brief period couple of years ago, I had UVerse. The UVerse DVR and slave boxes, were sort of like Hopper and Joey.

They worked either on MoCA or Ethernet. I wonder if it is possible to run Hopper and Joey on an ethernet over UTP instead of Moca over coax.

 

[GaryPen]

For a brief period couple of years ago, I had UVerse. The UVerse DVR and slave boxes, were sort of like Hopper and Joey.

They worked either on MoCA or Ethernet. I wonder if it is possible to run Hopper and Joey on an ethernet over UTP instead of Moca over coax.

I brought up that same point in an early "XIP813" thread. But, the Dish apologists jumped all over me because, at that time, the specs specifically stated Moca-only, and to those folks, if Dish says that's the beast way to do it, then by God it's the best way to do it. (It's not, of course. Being able to use either Moca or Ethernet would obviously be better.)

 

[BobaBird]

Since my last post was a huge glob I will try to turn it into sushi: observe.

Much easier to follow, thanks.

If 6 joeys and 2 hoppers are all connected over a dish pro X duo node(Supports 2 hopper 6 joeys): how many simultaneous feeds can be active watching different satellite channels live? What about recording?
Or better put: How many tuners can be active at once?

All 6 tuners can be used. They will initially offer a Hopper with up to 3 Joeys or 2 Hoppers with up to 4.

When recording a program are you given the option to force the program to one of the joey assigned tuners?(Like the tv1 / tv2 option on the 722.)

IIRC, Scott said it just grabs an available tuner. If there's none available for live TV, you get a screen that shows you what each is doing and giving you the option to join one of them or go to the DVR list.

Also are the joeys just front ends or do they have internal tuners with their own harddrives?

They only access the Hopper which does all the tuning and storage.

Also since the hopper is carrying both a sat feed and MoCA for the joeys picture and menu going back up the line to the node;Will it's frequency range be different than the joey. MoCA is up to 1500mhz but DPP for the sat feed requires cable rated up to 3000mhz.

The MoCA range is 500-1500MHz, configurable by the user (E* engineers). They've fit what they need to do in the gap between OTA and DBS.

And finally; per the summit I see that the joey was designed for dish pro plus as pictured with a 1000.2 but what about preexisting dish pro plus equipment? Will you be able to connect in sequence a dpp44 switch and a dish pro X solo node to run for example three 722s on the dpp44 and a hopper and 3 joeys on the solo node???

The Solo node takes 2 lines off a DPP switch (integrated or external) and the Duo node takes 3. While the remaining line(s) can be used for another receiver, Dish doesn't want to allow mixed systems.

 

[stardust3]

I pretty well have an understanding of this new technology as most members here do also. There are still many questions being asked here and I consider the folks here to be a step above the rest. I am curious how dish will market this & in easy terms for the average customer to understand. Also very anxious to hear about some pricing @ this point.

 

[UTMTech]

Much easier to follow, thanks.
All 6 tuners can be used. They will initially offer a Hopper with up to 3 Joeys or 2 Hoppers with up to 4.

IIRC, Scott said it just grabs an available tuner. If there's none available for live TV, you get a screen that shows you what each is doing and giving you the option to join one of them or go to the DVR list.

They only access the Hopper which does all the tuning and storage.

The MoCA range is 500-1500MHz, configurable by the user (E* engineers). They've fit what they need to do in the gap between OTA and DBS.
The Solo node takes 2 lines off a DPP switch (integrated or external) and the Duo node takes 3. While the remaining line(s) can be used for another receiver, Dish doesn't want to allow mixed systems.

Thank you very much for the reply! I am still off about the frequencies though... Does the DBS feed still comunicate up to 3ghz or does the node compress it ?

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[ScottChez]

The chart shows an option for Two Hoppers and 4 Joeys. With Two Joey connected to One Hopper and the other Two connected to the Second Hopper.

QUESTION. Will all 4 Joeys be able to watch recordings from BOTH Hopers or will it only have access to the Hopper it is connected to or linked to. The spect sheets do not detAil this

I did notice in the video demo that it looked like they left room to show 6 tuners on the Joey menu for selecting a tune to watch.

Has any one seen Two Hoppers on one system working? Did they demo it

Important to me as on my family of 4 I must have 4 tuners.


Just a reminder, the OTA USB will not be out at release date. It could come out weeks later, never or next year given Dish's track record on coming soon features. I would wait on ordering until its out. Maybe if few order it at first. They will speed up the OTA developerment work.