Echostar 14 119W transition information

[digiblur]

As always this information is subject to change as delays can happen. The spotbeam links will bring you to the beam maps.

On 6/10, TP 14 and TP 21 will change from 5/6 FEC to 7/8, the rest of them on 6/17 will change to 7/8 FEC. I suspect the few I have heard receiving a faint signal in Mexico will lose the lock on the signal with this FEC change.

5/19: DONE
Move CONUS Transponders 8,9,11,12,15,16,19,20
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam A2 21500 8PSK 2/3 - San Francisco, CA HD locals (from E7-TP 7)
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam A5 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Tucson SD locals (from E7-TP 5)
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam B12 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Milwaukee, WI SD locals (from E7-TP 5)
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam B18 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Savannah, GA, Columbia, SC SD locals (from E7-TP 5,7)
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam A24 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Anchorage, AK SD locals (from E7-TP 9)
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam A27 20000 QPSK 5/6 - Honolulu + TVJPN (from E7 TP 9)

5/24: DONE
Move CONUS Transponders 6,10,13,14,17,18,21
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam B11 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Houston, TX SD locals (from E7-TP 5,7)
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam B20 20000 QPSK 7/8 - West Palm Beach, FL, & Miami, FL SD locals (from E7-TP 1)
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam B17 20000 QPSK 7/8 - New York SD, Hartford, CT locals (from E7-TP 1,3)

5/26: DONE
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam A11 20000 QPSK 7/8 - South Bend, IN, FT Wayne, IN SD locals (from E7-TP 7)
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam A17 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Greenville, SC, [Charlotte,Atlanta,Macon,Augusta](1 CH each) SD locals (from E7-TP 5)
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam B13 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Champaign, IL, Terre Haute, IN SD locals (from E7-TP 5,7)
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam B16 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Wilkes-Barre, PA SD locals (from E7-TP 1)
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam B16 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Johnstown, PA, Washington DC SD locals (from E7-TP 1,3)
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam B18 20000 QPSK 7/8 - 1 CH Albany, GA
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam B21 20000 QPSK 7/8 - West Palm Beach, FL, & Miami, FL SD locals (from E7-TP 3)

5/27: DONE
CONUS: E7 Transponder 2 transfers to E14 Transponder 7 (no video services on TP 2 as of 5/26)
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam A1 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Seattle, WA SD locals (from E7-TP 3)
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam A4 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Reno, NV SD locals (from E7-TP 5)
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam A22 21500 8PSK 2/3 - Tucson, AZ HD locals (from E7-TP 7)
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam B2 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Eugene, OR(1 CH) Medford, OR SD locals (from E7-TP 5)
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam B3 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Los Angeles, CA SD locals (from E7-TP 1)
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam B3 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Los Angeles, CA SD locals (from E7-TP 3)
EchoStar14 119W TP 05 Spotbeam B10 20000 QPSK 7/8 - Austin, TX, Waco, TX SD locals (from E7-TP 5,7)
AK/HI - some HD channels moving from 110 to 119/129 spots

New HD Markets (Uplinked - available date unknown):
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam A7 21500 8PSK 2/3 - Rochester, MN HD Locals Planned (new market - date unknown)
EchoStar14 119W TP 01 Spotbeam A13 21500 8PSK 2/3 - Shreveport, LA HD Locals Planned (new market - date unknown)
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam A17 21500 8PSK 2/3 - Augusta, GA HD Locals Planned (new market - date unknown)
EchoStar14 119W TP 04 Spotbeam B9 21500 8PSK 2/3 - Wichita, KS HD Locals Planned (new market - date unknown)
EchoStar14 119W TP 03 Spotbeam B10 21500 8PSK 2/3 - San Angelo, TX HD Locals Planned (new market - date unknown)

Satellite Loading information:

Echostar14 119 Spots (as 5/27)
CONUS Beam
Capable of 1-32 transponders. 1-5 are currently being used as spotbeams and Echostar is only license for 1-21 at 119.

Spotbeam A1 - Seattle
5 - Not Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A2 - North/Central California
2 - Not Used
4 - Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A3 - East Oregon/Idaho
2 - Not Used
4 - Not Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A4 - Central California
5 - Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
9 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
11 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A5 - Arizona
4 - Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A6 - North Dakota
8 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A7 - Dakota/Nebraska/Iowa
1 - Used
5 - Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
13 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A8 - Iowa/Missouri
2 - Used

Spotbeam A9 - Northeast Texas
4 - Not Used

Spotbeam A10 - South Texas
2 - Not Used

Spotbeam A11 - Central Great Lakes
1 - Used
5 - Not Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
9 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
13 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A12 - Indiana/Ohio
2 - Not Used
8 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A13 - Texas/Louisiana/Arkansas
1 - Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
9 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
13 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A14 - Louisiana/Mississippi
2 - Used
8 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A15 - Northeast US #1
1 - Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A16 - Northeast US #2
2 - Not Used

Spotbeam A17 - Georgia/Carolinas
1 - Used
3 - Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
11 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A18 - North Carolina/Virginia
2 - Used

Spotbeam A19 - Florida #1
2 - Not Used

Spotbeam A20 - Florida #1
1 - Not Used
5 - Not Used

Spotbeam A21 - Montana
1 - Not Used
13 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A22 - Arizona
5 - Used

Spotbeam A23 - West Texas/New Mexico
1 - Not Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A24 - Alaska #1
1 - Used
3 - Used
5 - Not Used

Spotbeam A25 - Alaska #2
2 - Not Used
4 - Not Used
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam A26 - Cuba
1 - Not Used
5 - Not Used

Spotbeam A27 - Hawaii #1
1 - Used
3 - Not Used
5 - Used

Spotbeam A28 - Hawaii #2
2 - Used
4 - Used

Spotbeam B1 - Oregon
8 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B2 - South Oregon/North Cali
1 - Used
3 - Used

Spotbeam B3 - South California/Nevada
1 - Used
3 - Used
13 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B4 - South California
2 - Not Used
8 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B5 - Minnesota/Wisconsin
9 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B6 - Utah
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B7 - Colorado/Wyoming
3 - Not Used
9 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
11 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B8 - New Mexico
2 - Not Used

Spotbeam B9 - Oklahoma/Kansas
4 - Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
8 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B10 - South Texas Wide #1
3 - Used
5 - Used
11 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B11 - South Texas Wide #2
4 - Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
8 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B12 - Wisconsin
4 - Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B13 - Missouri/Illinois/Indiana
3 - Used
5 - Not Used
11 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B14 - Kentucky/Tennessee
4 - Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B15 - Mississippi/Alabama
3 - Not Used
5 - Used

Spotbeam B16 - New York/Penn
3 - Used
5 - Used
9 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
11 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
13 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B17 - Northeast US
4 - Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
8 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B18 - Carolinas/Georgia
4 - Used
6 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
10 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B19 - North Florida
9 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan
13 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B20 - South Florida #1
2 - Not Used
4 - Used

Spotbeam B21 - South Florida #2
3 - Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B22 - Puerto Rico #1
1 - Used
3 - Used
5 - Not Used
7 - Unable to use on current 1-5 spotbeam plan

Spotbeam B24 - Puerto Rico #2
4 - Used

Echostar7 119 Spots (as 5/26)
Spotbeam 1 - Hawaii
9 - Not Used

Spotbeam 2 - Alaska
9 - Not Used

Spotbeam 3 - West Washington
1 - Not Used
3 - Not Used

Spotbeam 4 - North California
5 - Not Used
7 - Not Used

Spotbeam 5 - South California
1 - Not Used
3 - Not Used

Spotbeam 6 - Arizona
5 - Not Used
7 - Not Used

Spotbeam 7 - Northern Utah
9 - Not Used

Spotbeam 8 - Mexico City
9 - Not Used

Spotbeam 9 - Oklahoma/Kansas
1 - Not Used
3 - Not Used

Spotbeam 10 - Southeast Texas
5 - Not Used
7 - Not Used

Spotbeam 11 - Illinois/Indiana
5 - Not Used
7 - Not Used

Spotbeam 12 - Louisiana/MS/Alabama
9 - Not Used

Spotbeam 13 - Northeast US
1 - Not Used
3 - Not Used

Spotbeam 14 - Carolinas
5 - Not Used
7 - Not Used

Spotbeam 15 - South Florida
1 - Not Used
3 - Not Used

 

[rj321]

Thank You.

 

[TravelFan1]

Thanks for the info digiblur.

But here's something that I can't understand: If the goal is to move us to a pure arc setting, then what the heck will the NY and Hartford, CT, locals do on the 119? Our condo old MDU setup WAS 61.5/110/119, which was since moved to the EA, 61.5/72/77.

 

[digiblur]

You have to remember there are a lot of older SD installs of 110/119. Those markets were spotbeamed on E7 before.

 

[TravelFan1]

You have to remember there are a lot of older SD installs of 110/119. Those markets were spotbeamed on E7 before.

I know, but I thought the plan was to move to pure arc's, isn't it? Or is pure arc's game plan for the time being HD only?

 

[digiblur]

I know, but I thought the plan was to move to pure arc's, isn't it? Or is pure arc's game plan for the time being HD only?

110/119 is a pure arc solution for SD. I don't believe they are doing them from new installs though. A buddy of mine got 2 VIP receivers and 1000.2 when he was ordering SD only.

That might be the long term plan to upgrade people, but they aren't going to do it just over a new satellite being put into service. That would be a ton of people to upgrade at once.

 

[whatchel1]

bye bye

Old SD set ups are going the same way MPEG 2 is: bye, bye.

 

[digiblur]

Old SD set ups are going the same way MPEG 2 is: bye, bye.

But not before E14 goes online.

 

[mike123abc]

Old SD set ups are going the same way MPEG 2 is: bye, bye.

Dish is smart. They are trying to convince everyone that they need HD. Every customer that pays $100 to dish up a new HD receiver saves Dish money for a conversion. It will be a while before MPEG-2 goes away on WA. They are going to milk it as long as they can. 8PSK will cost them a lot as it is.

 

[digiblur]

Dish is smart. They are trying to convince everyone that they need HD. Every customer that pays $100 to dish up a new HD receiver saves Dish money for a conversion. It will be a while before MPEG-2 goes away on WA. They are going to milk it as long as they can. 8PSK will cost them a lot as it is.

Bazinga!

 

[neljtorres]

Thanks Digi!

 

[Terry Thompson]

Sorry if I missed it but, what happens with the regular conus channels @119? Or are they unaffected with all these spotbeams.
thanks

 

[david_jr]

That would be a ton of people to upgrade at once.

In commuting around here in a 60 mile radius I would say that about 1 in 10 has a two dish setup, the rest are single Dish 500's and Superdishes pointed at 110/119. Surprisingly small # of HD setups. I'm the only one in my town that I know of. (town of 600).

 

[digiblur]

Sorry if I missed it but, what happens with the regular conus channels @119? Or are they unaffected with all these spotbeams.
thanks

Nothing will happen to them. Except you'll see increased power/strength if you are in the states or PR.

 

[digiblur]

Updated the first post with more markets and new transition start of 5/19.

 

[bradfordj]

Sacramento HD's have major drop out problems on 110 TP 18. This is a known issue that's out of Dish's control. It'd be nice if this could get resolved somehow. And maybe adding local CW in HD would be nice. Good Day Sacramento is big here and is in HD, but not on Dish.

 

[ttoommyy]

I have a simple question. I am in somewhere Canada and can not receive good/enough signal from echostar 7. I want to know when I can test whether I can receive good/enough signal from new echostar 14. Which TP should I scan? Thank you.

 

[HDRoberts]

I have a simple question. I am in somewhere Canada and can not receive good/enough signal from echostar 7. I want to know when I can test whether I can receive good/enough signal from new echostar 14. Which TP should I scan? Thank you.

While I hesitate to answer as receiving Dish service in Canada is against the law (not that I agree with said law), here you go.

It isn't at 119 yet, and is not transmitting anyway. You will have to wait for that.

Until then, you can get an idea from this map.

Echostar 14 119W TC1R Conus (Satkml)

 

[ttoommyy]

Thank you for answering. My regin is between the yellow line and red line, but very close to yellow. If using 33-inch dish, can I receive good singal? Thanks

While I hesitate to answer as receiving Dish service in Canada is against the law (not that I agree with said law), here you go.

It isn't at 119 yet, and is not transmitting anyway. You will have to wait for that.

Until then, you can get an idea from this map.

Echostar 14 119W TC1R Conus (Satkml)

 

[navychop]

You're pretty far north. Good luck. And that law is Canadian law, not U.S. law.