EchoStar / Dish’s Path Forward

[John2021]

DIRECTV already has it. People are not making a mad rush to sign up for it.

what is it 10.00 a month for every gemini air box no thanks

 

[John2021]

They will never have a remote with numbers.

channel master made a remote with numbers for the apple tv.. don't know if they still do though

 

[ewindowman]

If the steaming services made the interaction between the users interface more of a classic cable or satellite provider with channel numbers and more of a classic guide It would be game over for traditional providers. Instead they make it way to complicated I tried hula and way too many steps just to watch a show. I also tried YouTube TV that has a nice guide but I miss the channel numbers . If they addressed that issue I would probably switch .

 

[b4pjoe]

what is it 10.00 a month for every gemini air box no thanks

Not if you get it from someone other than DIRECTV.

channel master made a remote with numbers for the apple tv.. don't know if they still do though

My LG has a remote with channel numbers that works to control the Apple TV/DIRECTV app when signed in with my satellite account but channel numbers still do not work in the app.

 

[b4pjoe]

If the steaming services made the interaction between the users interface more of a classic cable or satellite provider with channel numbers and more of a classic guide It would be game over for traditional providers. Instead they make it way to complicated I tried hula and way too many steps just to watch a show. I also tried YouTube TV that has a nice guide but I miss the channel numbers . If they addressed that issue I would probably switch .

As said previously DIRECTV Stream has channel numbers if you use the DIRECTV receiver...either the Gemini or the Gemini Air.

 

[Bruce]

If the steaming services made the interaction between the users interface more of a classic cable or satellite provider with channel numbers and more of a classic guide It would be game over for traditional providers. Instead they make it way to complicated I tried hula and way too many steps just to watch a show. I also tried YouTube TV that has a nice guide but I miss the channel numbers . If they addressed that issue I would probably switch .

Again, a service that does not have channel numbers, YouTube TV, a provider that only has been offering Live TV for 8 years, recently leap frogged two Satellite Providers that have been offering services for about 30 years, became the #3 Provider, behind Comcast/Charter, who are 1 and 2.

DirecTV is now #4, Dish #5.

 

[Nebugeater]

I just can't see any future where new customers want to have a dish on their house or in their yard plus coax running everywhere. Maybe a few returning customers might come back but I just don't see a mad rush of many people wanting satellite TV. They both will be extremely lucky to just keep most of what they still have.

As streaming prices continue to go up and content is fractured between multiple sorces I would not rule out people looking at sat as a option. Even if they never had it before

 

[b4pjoe]

As streaming prices continue to go up and content is fractured between multiple sorces I would not rule out people looking at sat as a option. Even if they never had it before

Yes streaming prices are going up. Cable/Satellite prices are also going up with no sign of relenting on their part.

 

[NYDutch]

If the steaming services made the interaction between the users interface more of a classic cable or satellite provider with channel numbers and more of a classic guide It would be game over for traditional providers. Instead they make it way to complicated I tried hula and way too many steps just to watch a show. I also tried YouTube TV that has a nice guide but I miss the channel numbers . If they addressed that issue I would probably switch .

What channel numbers would they use? There's no standard set except for the OTA channels. Random numbers ok? Each service use their own numbers like cable and satellite? I have our YTTV channels listed in the order we most commonly use them so their quick to find anyway. We no longer miss the numbers we had on Dish. I don't know how numbers on a Firestick, Roku, etc. remote would work across the wide variety of available apps.

 

[Bruce]

As streaming prices continue to go up

And Cable/Satellite prices do not go up ?

and content is fractured between multiple sources

While true, you are ignoring the fact there is a extreme amount more streaming only content available via those multiple sources, none of it available on Traditional TV.

I would not rule out people looking at sat as an option.

Why, the numbers are showing us that people are flocking to YouTube TV, the exodus from Satellite TV ( and Cable) has continued to worsen every year.

Even if they never had it before

While true, you are ignoring the fact there is

 

[John2021]

As streaming prices continue to go up and content is fractured between multiple sorces I would not rule out people looking at sat as a option. Even if they never had it before

the only way to avoid price hikes is to go completely OTA using free streaming services or stop watching t,v, all together. broadcasters can negotiate for better rates when contract renewals come up don't mean that consumers can't negotiate with broadcasters for better rates. it blows my mind how many people think if they move to streaming there will be no price hikes.. right now netflix is losing there asses i am sure they will raise rates.. i see a pattern the more that leave streaming the higher it will go up same as cable and sat.. my tenants rotate services once the deals are over so every year or two they move on rinse and repete

 

[b4pjoe]

right now netflix is losing there asses

Ummmm...what?

Netflix Profit Surges, Setting Up Battle of Titans With YouTube

 

[John2021]

Ummmm...what?

Netflix Profit Surges, Setting Up Battle of Titans With YouTube

i'll have to find the read but they lost alot of revenue lately. somthing to do with some propaganda with kids programming not to talk politics

How Many Billions Did Netflix Lose Because of Elon Musk’s ‘Cancel Netflix’ Trend? - IMDb

IMDb, the world's most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content.

www.imdb.com

 

[Bruce]

i'll have to find the read but they lost alot of revenue lately. somthing to do with some propaganda with kids programming not to talk politics

How Many Billions Did Netflix Lose Because of Elon Musk’s ‘Cancel Netflix’ Trend? - IMDb

IMDb, the world's most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content.

www.imdb.com

which linked back to this-

How Many Billions Did Netflix Lose Because of Elon Musk's 'Cancel Netflix' Trend?

Elon Musk’s call to “Cancel Netflix” wipes billions in value. On the other hand, he makes history by briefly becoming the world’s first half-trillionaire.

fandomwire.com

Because of the stock price at the time, $1170.9, which was down 2%.

To see if it really affects revenue, wait until the 3Q25/ 4Q25 reports.

But the company has a $500 Billion market cap.

 

[Bruce]

right now netflix is losing there asses i am sure they will raise rates.. i see a pattern the more that leave streaming the higher it will go up same as cable and sat

i'll have to find the read but they lost alot of revenue lately. somthing to do with some propaganda with kids programming not to talk politics

The company reported revenue of $11.51 billion, a 17% increase year-over-year, aligning with guidance despite minor headwinds from unfavorable foreign exchange movements. This growth was driven by strong membership increases, strategic pricing adjustments, and a burgeoning advertising business across all regions.

Netflix Reports Strong Q3 2025 With Income Up to $3.25 Billion Despite Brazilian Tax Setback | Cord Cutters News

Netflix delivered a robust financial performance in the third quarter of 2025, showcasing significant revenue growth and operational strength, though a one-time expense related to a Brazilian tax dispute slightly tempered results. The company reported revenue of $11.51 billion, a 17% increase...

cordcuttersnews.com

 

[navychop]

Revenue vs after tax profits?

 

[John2021]

If the steaming services made the interaction between the users interface more of a classic cable or satellite provider with channel numbers and more of a classic guide It would be game over for traditional providers. Instead they make it way to complicated I tried hula and way too many steps just to watch a show. I also tried YouTube TV that has a nice guide but I miss the channel numbers . If they addressed that issue I would probably switch .

cable providers are already loosing there asses to streaming starlink and fiber!!!! it's dated tech.. why do you think they got into mobile and home security ... it's about time the monopolies got broke up!!!