Echostar prepares potential bankruptcy filing

[Yespage]

That's about to change

Boost service working or better efforts to monetize the Boost brand?

 

[HipKat]

Boost service working or better efforts to monetize the Boost brand?

Both, hopefully, but I meant marketing

 

[telstar_1]

The public perception of bankruptcy can tarnish a brand, especially for a product that people intend to use for several years and requires ongoing support from the company.

Satellite cannot be worse "tarnished" than has already become

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Dish isn't going away until the last satellite fails...many moons from now

And since they have TWO new satellites on order, that's going to be many many moons.

DIRECTV has nothing in the pipeline for its satellite services

As I said before... bankruptcy can save the company. It not a bad thing.

Trust me I know this from experience.

 

[Bruce]

And since they have TWO new satellites on order, that's going to be many many moons.

DIRECTV has nothing in the pipeline for its satellite services

No, but they are making a mighty push on the streaming side.

As I said before... bankruptcy can save the company. It not a bad thing.

Trust me I know this from experience.

Bankruptcy might be good of Dish, it is not good for those who invested in the company.

Chapter 11 does not solve their marketing issues, or that not many want Boost or Hughes Satellite System.

Also does not stop the churn from Dish and Sling, which will increase, unless Dish changes the business model to attract subscribers, as DirecTV is doing.

 

[navychop]

I think the corporate side of wireless 5G data transfer never got to where it was hoped.

Sigh.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

No, but they are making a mighty push on the streaming side.

Bankruptcy might be good of Dish, it is not good for those who invested in the company.

Chapter 11 does not solve their marketing issues, or that not many want Boost or Hughes Satellite System.

Also does not stop the churn from Dish and Sling, which will increase, unless Dish changes the business model to attract subscribers, as DirecTV is doing.

No one is getting the DIRECTV streaming service either... I know there were big meetings about that last week as they are concerned about it.

 

[Bruce]

No one is getting the DIRECTV streaming service either... I know there were big meetings about that last week as they are concerned about it.

Never wrote people were getting it, I posted at least DirecTV is trying.

 

[MikeD-C05]

Not how business works, Dish TV will be unprofitable with about 2-3 Million subscribers, based on the math and the rate of current losses, about a million a year for Dish, they will hit those lower subscriber's numbers sometime in 2026.

Sling will be unprofitable sometime next year, churn is also way up, Sling sub numbers are not helped by DirecTV's lower priced packages.

When you can get all the News Channels, all the top non-sports Cable Channels, Disney+, Hulu and HBO ( MAX ) for only $35, you can see why people will subscribe to DirecTV instead of Sling.

Sling needs to be revamped and make it the Streaming version of DISH and keep the DISH interface, guides, etc and sell them at the Sling TV lower priced packs. You could then add the locals if you wanted to at the price they charge if you wanted them, using this interface or still use your antenna with them and record them like Sling TV allows. Since there is just one company Echostar , it makes since to consolidate the two versions into one streaming app and it would be closer to what You tube Tv has done and what Directv is doing too. The Sling interface is horrible and the channels are all over the place with FREE view included here and there, a complete mess. Their is a lack of good channel logos. It needs to be organized into a similar interface as DISH and then add the Free view channels under a separate guide or a separate section by themselves, not intermixed with main channels.

 

[b4pjoe]

And since they have TWO new satellites on order, that's going to be many many moons.

What good will they be without subscribers?

 

[navychop]

They're not stupid. They have something in mind. That may or may not work.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Sling needs to be revamped and make it the Streaming version of DISH and keep the DISH interface, guides, etc and sell them at the Sling TV lower priced packs.

I agree with this 100%.

 

[navychop]

Content. Needs content.

 

[dishdude]

Content. Needs content.

That's the problem with the entire industry!

 

[zippyfrog]

Sling needs to be revamped and make it the Streaming version of DISH and keep the DISH interface, guides, etc and sell them at the Sling TV lower priced packs. You could then add the locals if you wanted to at the price they charge if you wanted them, using this interface or still use your antenna with them and record them like Sling TV allows. Since there is just one company Echostar , it makes since to consolidate the two versions into one streaming app and it would be closer to what You tube Tv has done and what Directv is doing too. The Sling interface is horrible and the channels are all over the place with FREE view included here and there, a complete mess. Their is a lack of good channel logos. It needs to be organized into a similar interface as DISH and then add the Free view channels under a separate guide or a separate section by themselves, not intermixed with main channels.

AMEN!!!!

 

[dishdude]

I agree with this 100%.

It wouldn't cost much to develop an Android box with a remote similar to Dish with channel numbers. This seems to be the biggest complaint I hear from people moving to streaming services.

 

[dishdude]

What good will they be without subscribers?

Can't have subscribers without working satellites, they're betting on rural and traditional subscribers that don't want to or can't stream, along with DirecTV going all streaming.

 

[Bruce]

They're not stupid. They have something in mind.

I have been reading something like that for years here, yet it continues to get worse.

What have they done in the last five years to turn things around?

Buy a Cell Phone Company, lose 1.8M customers.

Launch a new Satellite for Hughes that only provides slightly better service, lose your consumer and business subscribers to Star Link, as reported every quarter.

And yes, have read the Hopper 3 is the best box ever so many times, yet Dish had 13 Million subs when it was introduced, now barely over 5 Million.

And where is the 5G Broadband Home Service they have been promising since they started hoarding spectrum.

And nothing that Dish can do, will bring back new content to broadcast/cable channels.

 

[navychop]

Just in case, I'll have this ready for you. You want Tabasco with that?

 

[dishdude]

I have been reading something like that for years here, yet it continues to get worse.

What have they done in the last five years to turn things around?

Buy a Cell Phone Company, lose 1.8M customers.

Launch a new Satellite for Hughes that only provides slightly better service, lose your consumer and business subscribers to Star Link, as reported every quarter.

And yes, have read the Hopper 3 is the best box ever so many times, yet Dish had 13 Million subs when it was introduced, now barely over 5 Million.

And where is the 5G Broadband Home Service they have been promising since they started hoarding spectrum.

And nothing that Dish can do, will bring back new content to broadcast/cable channels.

I don't remember them ever talking about 5G home, at first it was this weird IoTs which never made sense.