Equal time for stuff Dish did right...

TNGTony

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It is in the very nature of this type of forum for us subscribers to do nothing but moan and complain about all the stuff we see being done wrong. We wail at all the changes and anything that isn't just perfect. Those that have been around long enough know that when there is something wrong that affects me, I will complain loudly and often.

I wanted to start a new thread that I am sure will die quickly as most people accept great service as the norm (it isn't) and will not even comment when they are happy about something done to their satisfaction.

What inspired me to post this was a recent experience with a Dish CSR and an agent/installer.

As most of you already know, Dish is abandoning their original set-up for HD subscribers (61.5°/110°/119°) for the "Pure arc" set-ups: Western Arc (110/119/129) and Eastern Arc (61.5/72.7/77). Those of us with the original Dish Network set-ups were left out of the last two HD channel launches. (BBA America, TCM, Style, Epix, TruTV, Bio, etc). We were left with three options:

1) Live without the new channels and wait for Dish to contact us when the continued transition to pure arc set-ups would have us losing channels as they moved to 72.7,
2) Attempt to move one satellite dish from 61.5° to 129°
3) Call Dish and hope you reach a customer service rep that understands the problem and can schedule some one to come out to rectify the problem without charging you or some how messing it up.

Well, for me option 1 was not acceptable. When I found out about this I nearly burst a blood vessel. Scott G was the first to "see" my reaction in the chat room.

So, I am a handy sort of person. I figured option 2. Thanks to great instructions in the transition thread I was able to re-aim my 61.5° dish to 129° so I was pointed at western arc. But this was in early march. No leaves on trees. Once the leaves came out, I discovered I wasn't "shooting" over the tree, I was shooting through it. After several attempts to move the dish to different spots on the house I came to the conclusion that the look angle was too low on Western arc because of all the trees on the top of a hill. Trying to point to Eastern arc was going to be a real problem because of the row of trees mostly reaching up 40-50 feet up on a 15 foot hill in the line of sight. I am not that handy.

Those who have seen my posts about previous experiences calling Dish Network about anything know that this would be my last resort. I figured at this point I had nothing to lose. I called Dish yesterday evening. After navigating the voice prompts I was on the line with a very courteous CSR who immediately understood my problem and offered to have a technician at my house between noon and 5 today (Sunday) with no service call charge. Wow! Of course I accepted the appointment.

Anyone in this part of the country would know my skepticism that this appointment would be kept. It was raining all day and some heavy storms have been going through the area. At 3pm I get a call that the tech was on his way. Then a few minutes later I get a call from the tech confirming he is coming and asking what exactly I needed done. He was unaware of the new channels at 72.7° and informed me of a problem with the work order. But rather than telling me I was SOL, he told me he would contact Dish and verify the info I gave him and get the work order taken care of.

Fifteen minutes later the tech showed up and we discussed options. It was a discussion. This is new. The techs I'd dealt with before were closed to suggestions and really viewed me as a PITA. This man listened to my suggestions and concerns and came up with a great solution.

A little over an hour later, I had a new dish on my roof pointing at Eastern Arc. 20 minutes after that the 622 had done the check switch and loaded the new guide. Now, not only do I get the 18 new HD channels. I also get the Cincinnati locals in HD via satellite. Finally I can record THREE HD local programs while watching a fourth DVR program in HD.

The signal on 77 is low, but I understand that is normal, and I am sure this is going through a gap in the branches of a gigantic tree just on the other side of the fence from my back yard. But as the tree was waiving about in the stormy skies, I hope this is as bad as it gets.

As much as I complain when things go wrong, I want to make sure to share when Dish does it right from the time I pick up the phone to the time that the issue is resolved.

Thanks to the CSR, the dispatcher, and the technician who visited my house for a job well done!

Tony
 

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I have been with Dish since October 2007 and have never have had problems with them. Even when the switch went on my 625 last summer, the problem was rectified quickly. The CSRs I have dealt with have always been knowledgeable and helpful. No complaints here.
 
I had a similar experience. I really wanted BBCA in HD and had the 119/110/61.5 installation. This was a relatively new install. In any case, I called the day after the new channels went up and had a tech the next day - in the cold and snow. He added a third dish to the dish farm growing off my back deck to get me the 72.7 slot and replaced the original switch with a big honking unit that has lots of extra inputs. This required the installation of an additional power supply to power all the new stuff. So now I have a four satellite installation and an impressive looking array (I don't mind that) on the side of my deck - and all the new channels.

They even waived the service charge. This cost me nothing. The installer even left his cool looking safety glasses behind so I have an additional fashion accessory. Oh yeah, I got an Olympics stocking cap out of it as well. Dish was handing them out at the time as part of some promotion.
 
3) Call Dish and hope you reach a customer service rep that understands the problem and can schedule some one to come out to rectify the problem without charging you or some how messing it up.

When I called and asked to be moved from 119/110/61.5 to EA, I was told there would be a $95 charge. Is it possible a different CSR will give me the install for free?.
 
When I called and asked to be moved from 119/110/61.5 to EA, I was told there would be a $95 charge. Is it possible a different CSR will give me the install for free?.


It is very possible. Don't forget to mention that you know you are missing channels because of the way they installed your service and that you know more will be missing soon and ask what they are going to do about it. $95 is the wrong answer for a problem they created.
 
I'll have to say that my experience was similar; after waiting for all the February snow to melt off the roof, and then recovering from rotator cuff surgery, I was tired of waiting for an easter-arc phone call from dish. Called them using the phone number in the sticky above (which seemed to be set up for folks that had been contacted about eastern arc, maybe?), they accessed my records & set up an appt. for 2 days later; 12-5pm.

Unlike my Dish visits in the past, the installer was here at 12:10 ready to go. He put the dish in a brand new location (the previous 61.5 single dish was beginning to get blocked by trees), removed the old 61.5 and 110/119 dishes, and cleaned up all the wiring and the 2 3x4 switches. I had a real rats nest of wiring from the initial install in 2001 and subsequent upgrades by dish techs and myself. I was VERY impressed by the job he did.

As he was finishing the dish & wiring, his supervisor arrived with a 612 to replace the 501 upstairs. They both worked to install this & get the 722 and 622 up on the new satellites. Took a good 2.5 hours, but was a completely professional, clean install. I was impressed. Have all the new HD, and not occasionally losing my 61.5 signal.

Good job dish.....
 
Tony--Glad you had a positive experience and thanks for posting about it. I also had a couple of horrendous nightmares in the past with Dish but needed to be swapped from WA to EA a year ago. Same reason--huge trees. Anyhoo, I dreaded calling them because of previous experience but it was that or cancel. To my amazement every step of the situation, from the CSR to the tech that did the install was like one big commercial for Dish service. This was done at NO charge and NO commitment. Everyone involved did an outstanding job and I was happy to tip the tech $20 and report my experience here. I even emailed the ceo to tell 'em what a great job they did & while I was doing so Dish called to ask how everything went! God knows what might happen next time I need service but when it's done right they should get an attaboy...........;)

Ed
 
I have to tell my story here as well.

I had been emailing the ceo address and calling dish to get switched over the the EA. I was running into brick wall after brick wall.

I received a phone call on Friday, May 1, from someone at dish network's executive offices. I explained that I am not able to receive the new HD because I have the 61.5/110/119 combo. Within a few minutes, an appointment was scheduled for today, Monday May 3, and the EA would be installed along with a 211k to replace the 508 I would lose due to the EA. Fast forward to this morning at 9:30am, John from intertech came and hooked up the EA and setup the 211k. The install took a few hours, but he did an amazing job, very happy. John took down the 110/119 dish that had been on a pole for eight years, and even took down the pole!! He was very nice and personable, and made the nest of wires neat again. I cannot say enough how great of a job he did.

I now have the new HD and everything works as it should.

GREAT JOB DISH!!
 
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My experience pretty much mirrors Cold Irons. I initiated the call and was pretty much expecting a long and involved process. Nope the guy was pleasant and understanding. Best of all EA was installed the next day!

This past Friday.. the HDMI port on my 622 died. Again a good CSR experience. New box tomorrow. Best of all even though I have AEP I am getting HBO/Sho for three months free. I did not ask for it but he offered!. Plus...I got my Gold HD/Plat HD bill reduced to $10 like so many have done here already. That I asked about and he delivered.

All in all very very positive for me!

Side note: be sure to do the brief survey(phone calls for me). I'm sure they know when they screw up but never hear when they did a great job.
 
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Thanks. I got the survey call just as the installer was leaving. All fives for this particular call.

See ya
Tony

That's true not all the CSR form Dish are bad people sometimes they don't succed in helping the customer and say no without any option. But they are some that strieve to excellence and want to help people any way they can! I am glad for you Tony and you got it resolved! For the other trees you ar going to have to chop some branches off;)
 
At least you got taken care of. They made me sign up for the service plan and pay $15 to get the tech to move the dish and pay $25 to cancel the service, or pay $95 to get a tech out and they are stonewalling me right now as I am trying to get some satisfaction. I guess you got lucky......
 
Same situation for me ... customer for eight years, set up for HD at 61.5, and I had to pay $95 or pay $15 and get the service plan to fix *their* issue. In fact, EA was available when they installed the 61.5, but said I wouldn't need it.

OTOH, the install itself was done quickly and professionally.
 
For all the others who need to get pure arc installs, wait until contacted by E*. It's free if you do. The CSRs apparently have to use the $95 and $15 with service plan rates unless your account is flagged for repointing.
 
I actually had a great experience with Dish this past week. We had a power surge due to Car VS Lightpole early in the morning and it pretty much fried everything even with surge protection in line. Since my 625 did not survive the surge I called Dish and actually got Brittany who was here in the states. I told her what had happen and within 2 minutes had an order in for replacement 625 which should be here tomorrow. Like I said in another thread the American angels must have been looking out for me. Did not have to deal with any India CSR's and busines was done in a timely fashion. Later this summer when I upgrade I will come back and re visit this thread and see how my experience goes when I upgrade... CC
 
It is in the very nature of this type of forum for us subscribers to do nothing but moan and complain about all the stuff we see being done wrong. We wail at all the changes and anything that isn't just perfect. Those that have been around long enough know that when there is something wrong that affects me, I will complain loudly and often.

I wanted to start a new thread that I am sure will die quickly as most people accept great service as the norm (it isn't) and will not even comment when they are happy about something done to their satisfaction.

What inspired me to post this was a recent experience with a Dish CSR and an agent/installer.

As most of you already know, Dish is abandoning their original set-up for HD subscribers (61.5°/110°/119°) for the "Pure arc" set-ups: Western Arc (110/119/129) and Eastern Arc (61.5/72.7/77). Those of us with the original Dish Network set-ups were left out of the last two HD channel launches. (BBA America, TCM, Style, Epix, TruTV, Bio, etc). We were left with three options:

1) Live without the new channels and wait for Dish to contact us when the continued transition to pure arc set-ups would have us losing channels as they moved to 72.7,
2) Attempt to move one satellite dish from 61.5° to 129°
3) Call Dish and hope you reach a customer service rep that understands the problem and can schedule some one to come out to rectify the problem without charging you or some how messing it up.

Well, for me option 1 was not acceptable. When I found out about this I nearly burst a blood vessel. Scott G was the first to "see" my reaction in the chat room.

So, I am a handy sort of person. I figured option 2. Thanks to great instructions in the transition thread I was able to re-aim my 61.5° dish to 129° so I was pointed at western arc. But this was in early march. No leaves on trees. Once the leaves came out, I discovered I wasn't "shooting" over the tree, I was shooting through it. After several attempts to move the dish to different spots on the house I came to the conclusion that the look angle was too low on Western arc because of all the trees on the top of a hill. Trying to point to Eastern arc was going to be a real problem because of the row of trees mostly reaching up 40-50 feet up on a 15 foot hill in the line of sight. I am not that handy.

Those who have seen my posts about previous experiences calling Dish Network about anything know that this would be my last resort. I figured at this point I had nothing to lose. I called Dish yesterday evening. After navigating the voice prompts I was on the line with a very courteous CSR who immediately understood my problem and offered to have a technician at my house between noon and 5 today (Sunday) with no service call charge. Wow! Of course I accepted the appointment.

Anyone in this part of the country would know my skepticism that this appointment would be kept. It was raining all day and some heavy storms have been going through the area. At 3pm I get a call that the tech was on his way. Then a few minutes later I get a call from the tech confirming he is coming and asking what exactly I needed done. He was unaware of the new channels at 72.7° and informed me of a problem with the work order. But rather than telling me I was SOL, he told me he would contact Dish and verify the info I gave him and get the work order taken care of.

Fifteen minutes later the tech showed up and we discussed options. It was a discussion. This is new. The techs I'd dealt with before were closed to suggestions and really viewed me as a PITA. This man listened to my suggestions and concerns and came up with a great solution.

A little over an hour later, I had a new dish on my roof pointing at Eastern Arc. 20 minutes after that the 622 had done the check switch and loaded the new guide. Now, not only do I get the 18 new HD channels. I also get the Cincinnati locals in HD via satellite. Finally I can record THREE HD local programs while watching a fourth DVR program in HD.

The signal on 77 is low, but I understand that is normal, and I am sure this is going through a gap in the branches of a gigantic tree just on the other side of the fence from my back yard. But as the tree was waiving about in the stormy skies, I hope this is as bad as it gets.

As much as I complain when things go wrong, I want to make sure to share when Dish does it right from the time I pick up the phone to the time that the issue is resolved.

Thanks to the CSR, the dispatcher, and the technician who visited my house for a job well done!

Tony
BIngo!! I would have done the same and said screw the inspector who will undoubtedly fail the job if he sees less than 5 degrees clearance for all sats. I am with the customer. If I can get it done and provide reasonable reception, it gets done.
Often thoug, techs for fear of repucussions will not do jobs that are not by the book. Trust me when I tell you there are enormous pressures on both sides. That is getting as many jobs completed and getting them done according to specs.
 

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