Explain the 3.0 debate (likely scenarios)

[vcr1980]

As far as I understand, some companies want ATSC 3.0 because they want to be able to make more money from personalized ads that use the internet.

What are the things that companies are asking for that are unreasonable?

Not being able to record?

Not being able to see content unless you have something? What something?

What are the likely scenarios that may happen?

And, is it true that ATSC 3.0 may not happen? What a relief.

Is it likely that all rabbit ear TV will cease to be free? Or cease to even exist?

Thank you!

 

[navychop]

Yes.

 

[navychop]

DRM is a four letter word!

 

[primestar31]

As far as I understand, some companies want ATSC 3.0 because they want to be able to make more money from personalized ads that use the internet.

What are the things that companies are asking for that are unreasonable?

Not being able to record?

Not being able to see content unless you have something? What something?

What are the likely scenarios that may happen?

And, is it true that ATSC 3.0 may not happen? What a relief.

Is it likely that all rabbit ear TV will cease to be free? Or cease to even exist?

Thank you!

Read all you want here, right from the beginning: ATSC 3.0 (NOTE: No soliciting or campaigning)

 

[dishdude]

OTA is dying anyway, worthless content. I don't know what special thing they have that requires DRM.

 

[N5XZS]

Only thing is OTA, is good for free news and sports, but not so good on heavy censorship bleeping F words and blurring out nudity and show only FCC friendly G-rated junk shows.

 

[moonwink]

I for one enjoy my OTA "free" TV and hope it continues. There's no way I'm going to subscribe to half a dozen streaming services to watch what I want to watch. Seems like they all carry a different line up and I have no interest in trying to sort out which fits me. I've never seen or heard of a side by side comparison. I've been a Dish customer since I took down my 8ft dish over 25 years ago and when they go belly up, I guess only then will I seek an alternative provider. I don't subscribe to the locals because they're way overpriced for the few main channels when I can get over 10 times as many sub-channels OTA. My ADTH receiver allows me to watch the ATSC 3.0 feeds which are sometimes a little stronger in my poor reception area.

 

[AZ.]

Only thing is OTA, is good for free news and sports, but not so good on heavy censorship bleeping F words and blurring out nudity and show only FCC friendly G-rated junk shows.

Thats what it is now yes.....But now you set it up right, you can have a STB and pay to watch....You dont think thats the big picture?

 

[N5XZS]

Yes I do subscribe to pay services, but the real thing is USA's free over the air programs containt is more restricted than European's free over the air containts on F words and nudity.

The FCC's mindset is so out of touch in 21st century world since we are not in 1970's anymore!

 

[AZ.]

Yes I do subscribe to pay services, but the real thing is USA's free over the air programs containt is more restricted than European's free over the air containts on F words and nudity.

The FCC's mindset is so out of touch in 21st century world since we are not in 1970's anymore!

If its scrambled it isnt a factor....In the 80s we had many pay per view channels that showed naked flesh, and movies unedited. They were on UHF, by me.

 

[N5XZS]

Yes, as a teenager playing TV sets with old analog scrambled stations at night time while in DC, were very poor scrambling system they used and you can see topless nudity back in the early 80's at that time!

 

[navychop]

Yes I do subscribe to pay services, but the real thing is USA's free over the air programs containt is more restricted than European's free over the air containts on F words and nudity.

The FCC's mindset is so out of touch in 21st century world since we are not in 1970's anymore!

Haven't been to a church lately, have you?

 

[N5XZS]

Not into obsolete medieval religion's outdated stuff, can't afford to have 2nd dark age that we heading to not like what Roman Empire collapsed that did happen.

But I do believe in IDIC, in certain conditions how our civilization grow and evolve and hopefully travel to stars.

Just way, I think about this timeline we are living in now, just saying.

 

[Jim5506]

Yes I do subscribe to pay services, but the real thing is USA's free over the air programs containt is more restricted than European's free over the air containts on F words and nudity.

The FCC's mindset is so out of touch in 21st century world since we are not in 1970's anymore!

It may not be the FCC that is out of touch . Broadcasting pornography and profanity willy-nilly over FTA broadcasting is out of touch.

 

[moonwink]

How low do you want to? I've never missed smut being broadcast into my home over the airways (or over a streaming connection either). Different tastes I guess.

 

[TNGuy84]

OTA is dying anyway, worthless content. I don't know what special thing they have that requires DRM.

They don't want people putting up illegal streams of OTA content and making revenue off of it. They want to keep it under their control and negotiate higher and higher fees from the streaming platforms, cable, and satellite. Some people are being doomsayers by suggesting that they're going to start charging for your TV channels. No, they'll just have more control over what you can do with that free TV, including the recordings. If they started charging OTA viewers for the content, they know people wouldn't pay it, and they wouldn't make that much off of it. What isn't fair is that they're trying to force others to use the same system so all channels can be on a controlled system.

 

[dishdude]

They don't want people putting up illegal streams of OTA content and making revenue off of it. They want to keep it under their control and negotiate higher and higher fees from the streaming platforms, cable, and satellite. Some people are being doomsayers by suggesting that they're going to start charging for your TV channels. No, they'll just have more control over what you can do with that free TV, including the recordings. If they started charging OTA viewers for the content, they know people wouldn't pay it, and they wouldn't make that much off of it. What isn't fair is that they're trying to force others to use the same system so all channels can be on a controlled system.

Who wants to watch illegal streams of OTA content? Who's pirating the Wheel of Fortune?

 

[navychop]

And when people can't DVR it, it ain't gonna get the eyeballs. They want us to PAY every single time we watch anything.

I generally sneer at "greed" posts. But I've come around for this. They want absolute control. And once they get it, an honest government will shut it done. Monopolistic.

Remember Circuit City' great idea? How well did that work- the self destructing DVDs? For that matter, who remembers Circuit City?

 

[N5XZS]

Besides, Why you want to record old shows and G-rated junks nowdays anyway...

 

[navychop]

That's the idea, I think. Debase the content. Well under way.