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John Kotches

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At release it will not work that way. Once they have a sofware update all the Hoppers and Joeys are to work together.

Unless there's an option to "link" a joey with a specific hopper at release I could see these as being discrete MoCA networks. Once the software is complete, the two networks would be joined for all devices to see one another.
 

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dwarren2 said:
At release, it won't be any different that having2 receivers currently. With 1 big exception, for only $7/mo you will have a 2nd hd receiver with 3 tuners.

Sounds pretty awesome to me.
 

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mopar_mudder said:
Another words wait. I have heard this story before, it could take a year for them to do it or just never happen at all.....

Except they've shown it working. They're just working on menu integration and prettying it up.
 

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Thinking about 2 Hoppers on the same network seems like an easy thing, but really it can be a major pain. You would need one Hopper to the the primary device to keep up with the 2nd Hopper so when a Joey comes online it can direct it to a tuner or to a recording. Or you keep them separate and the Joey has to be told which one to connect to. Its like having 2 servers on your network, lets say you download 10 videos to one and 10 to another. You have to navigate to each server separately to find a video you might be looking for. Or I guess you can set up some kind of symbolic links to have one server mount the other into a shares folder, but now that starts getting complicated. So you would have a primary server to go to, or have them both have links to each other. I don't think its as simple as "put them on the same network and Joeys can see them" you need some kind of cross communication.
 

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Thinking about 2 Hoppers on the same network seems like an easy thing, but really it can be a major pain. You would need one Hopper to the the primary device to keep up with the 2nd Hopper so when a Joey comes online it can direct it to a tuner or to a recording. Or you keep them separate and the Joey has to be told which one to connect to. Its like having 2 servers on your network, lets say you download 10 videos to one and 10 to another. You have to navigate to each server separately to find a video you might be looking for. Or I guess you can set up some kind of symbolic links to have one server mount the other into a shares folder, but now that starts getting complicated. So you would have a primary server to go to, or have them both have links to each other. I don't think its as simple as "put them on the same network and Joeys can see them" you need some kind of cross communication.


I agree that this seamless integration may be difficult to pull off. I think the software will take a lot of work and time to accomplish. My hope is that people who purchase two Hoppers at release time will be patient. My guess is a year to get the seamless integration fully working.
 

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I agree that this seamless integration may be difficult to pull off. I think the software will take a lot of work and time to accomplish. My hope is that people who purchase two Hoppers at release time will be patient. My guess is a year to get the seamless integration fully working.

OR longer . By then they will be off to something else cutting edge and you will need to upgrade to it ,to get what you wanted in the hopper in the first place. My guess is a 6 tuner hopper.:popcorn
 

my3son

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a 4, 5, or 6 hopper tuner makes a lot of since

OR longer . By then they will be off to something else cutting edge and you will need to upgrade to it ,to get what you wanted in the hopper in the first place. My guess is a 6 tuner hopper.:popcorn

A 4, 5, or 6 Hopper tuner makes a lot of since, that or 4, 5 or 6 Joeys tied to the current 3 tuner Hopper. I wonder if it's a CPU limitation since all the tuners are virtual anyway. For those wanting tuners in the Joeys, that's going backwards IMHO. Put more in the Hopper and keep the Joey as is.
 

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They kind of need to get out there before that court of opinion can be held.
whoa. I miss read you and I was going to give you a "1+" post when I thought you said

"I need to get out of here before that court of opinion can be held."

But never mind. I need to get out of here. PQ discussions can go on forever.:eek:
 

MikeD-C05

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anyone have any idea on PQ yet? Better, worse, same? How about audio, any differences?

All I can say about pq is that each time I upgraded to the newest HD receiver , I saw better picture quality than I had before. I think it is because the newest receiver gets the latest most advanced chip sets. I saw a better pq on my 922 than my 722k had ,but I was willing to go back to the 722k because of all the glitches ,and bugs and limitations the 922 had at the time.
 

Backup Brain

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All I can say about pq is that each time I upgraded to the newest HD receiver , I saw better picture quality than I had before.

I think this is a trend that's been going on with all A/V equipment for quite a long time. I wrote a blog post about it in 2009:

Does your new A/V receiver sound worse than your old one?

(TL; DR) Not for me.

I'm expecting that I'll get a noticeable improvement in picture quality (and maybe better surround sound quality) from the Hopper that will replace my aging 722.
 

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